YouTube censors David Davis MP’s speech against vaccine passports

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/2021/10/youtube-censors-david-davis-mps-speech-against-vaccine-passports/

by zpeti • 5 years ago

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timonoko2• 5 years ago

"UK hospital data shocks the world: 80% of COVID deaths are among the vaccinated… COVID deaths up 3,000% after vaccine wave."

egberts1• 5 years ago

among the vaccinated?

perhaps it is all about context censorship.

estebank2• 5 years ago

The only place I could find that quote is in a less than reputable site: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-28-covid-deaths-in-vacci...

Meanwhile, in the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58545548:

Of the 51,281 deaths involving Covid registered in England between 2 January and 2 July 2021:
- 640 (1.2%) were people who had received both vaccine doses
This total includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated
- Some 458 deaths (0.8%) were people who died at least 21 days after their second dose
Just 256 deaths (0.5%) were people who were both fully vaccinated and who had their first positive PCR test at least 14 days after their second dose
Some deaths after vaccination were always expected because vaccines are not 100% effective, and it takes a couple of weeks after your second dose to build the fullest protection.
The figures show the high degree of protection from the vaccines against illness and death, the ONS said.

schleck82• 5 years ago

Natural News is a known pseudoscientific website

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/

makomk2• 5 years ago

Yikes - the time period the BBC and ONS have chosen for those statistics is close to maximally misleading. It includes most of the 2020/2021 winter wave of cases and deaths which ended before the UK had widespread vaccination whilst almost entirely excluding the summer 2021 wave which happened after most of the adult population was vaccinated. Of course most deaths are going to be amongst people who weren't vaccinated if you only count the ones before vaccination was widespread.

To give some context for how bad setting the time period to be from the start of January to the start of July is, the winter wave peaked in cases at the start of January and deaths mid-January, and by the end of the month less than 1% of UK adults had recieved both vaccine doses - and remember, the stats in that article are for both doses only. The next big wave saw deaths start to increase around the start of July, by which point three-quarters of adults had both doses; those deaths aren't counted at all.

wesleywt• 5 years ago

Amazing how misinformation like this spread so much quicker than the truth.

ben_w• 5 years ago

As the entirety of your comment as a quote, I don’t know if you’re giving an example of David Davis saying something misleading, or if you’re trying to signal boost his claims.

But that quote is misleading: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/09/fact-check-claim-...

(Think of it this way: if 100% of people are vaccinated, then 100% of deaths will be vaccinated people. This is true for literally every possible vaccine and disease and cause of death, not just COVID. It’s also true for “people who drink water”. It only pattern matches the conveyance of useful information, but by itself it is half a statement and says nothing).

estebank2• 5 years ago

This is an example of the base rate fallacy[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy

finite_jest4• 5 years ago

TBH, I think the Lead Stories factcheck is slightly hand-wavy. Let's do some back-of-the-envelope calculations based on their numbers:

- The breakdown of Covid-19 deaths for the month of August in Scotland seems to be as follows: 75% fully vaccinated, 20% unvaccinated, and 5% partly vaccinated.

- The Covid-19 vaccination progress in Scotland seems to be like this: 84% have had both doses, 9% are not vaccinated, and 7% have only had their first dose.

Now, we can try to estimate the vaccine's efficacy as follows: the population of fully vaccinated people is ~9.33x the unvaccinated (0.84/0.9), but their number of deaths is only ~3.75x (0.75/0.2). That gives an estimated efficacy of around 60%. (https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1+-+%280.75%2F0.2%29%2...)

Again from the numbers in the factcheck, the advertised efficacy is around 75 to 99% for the AstraZeneca vaccine.

timonoko2• 5 years ago

I was just Duckduckgoing this issue and found this popular title quite amusing. In Finland they are issuing passports against 17% population. Most of which have medical excuse.

InsomniacL2• 5 years ago

~"95% of car crash deaths are those wearing a seatbelt" Does that mean seatbelts are harmful? no. Almost everyone wears a seatbelt, so the overall deaths are much lower than if everyone didn't wear a seatbelt.

P.S I couldn't be bothered looking the actual number up because the vaccine claim is ridiculous.

schleck82• 5 years ago

There is a joke here somewhere. Vouching against government regulation and for liberalism, gets his speech deleted. Does liberalism not apply to Youtube?

TBastiani• 5 years ago

This video is still up. I'm not sure if I'm looking at the wrong video, if it was never taken down or if YouTube have changed their decision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VidUXZjzNVk

pixxel• 5 years ago

It was reinstated after pressure on Twitter.

InsomniacL2• 5 years ago

Can you provide a source to that claim?

I'm interested to know if it was pressure on Twitter or or if the uploader followed a Youtube appeal process which was successful.

500 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute worldwide, algorithms are the only way to practically 'police' harmful content on this scale, but so long as there is a meaningful appeals process, i don't see an issue?

bananapub• 5 years ago

A general question: What content should large companies be allowed to decline to host?

YouTube censors David Davis MP’s speech against vaccine passports

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