Spaces launch in Element

https://element.io/blog/spaces-blast-out-of-beta/

by liotier • 5 years ago

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vaylian2• 5 years ago

[Spaces] come in three main flavours:

This is what I still find confusing about spaces. How do I create each of these 3 different flavours? Is there a default flavour? Do I have to upgrade a personal space into a private/public space?

callahad11• 5 years ago

Which you click the "Create a Space" button in the sidebar, you get a clear prompt to choose between "Public" and "Private" (and a note that you can change this later in the Space's settings).

Personal Spaces are just a special case of a Private Space where you haven't invited anyone else. It's worth calling out this use case separately, as we've otherwise seen users assume that Spaces were only for shared hierarchies, when in fact anyone can create a Space and put whatever rooms they want in it to create a personal system of organization, even if those rooms are already in other Spaces.

If you want to turn your Personal Space into a shared Private space, you can invite people via the button on the Space's summary page. If you want to open it up to the Public, that's in the settings menu accessed from the same page.

MayeulC4• 5 years ago

I dislike that distinction a bit. Spaces are just like rooms. You can just create one (that's a personal space), invite some people in (private space), and make it public with a public link (public space).

The distinction is artificial. I mostly want public or private spaces to regroup existing rooms, so the "private" space that wants to force me to create new rooms (in element) is a bad fit.

I also think it's a bit early to come out of beta without peeking: you have to be joined to subspaces as well so that sub-rooms are sorted.

vaylian2• 5 years ago

I dislike that distinction a bit. Spaces are just like rooms

Because you understand rooms at a different conceptual level than me. And that by itself is a good thing. But the rest of us still needs more explanations/analogies.

The thing that is still missing for me: How can spaces/rooms contain other rooms? For example, could someone create a sub-room of #matrix:matrix.org?

callahad11• 5 years ago

For an example of Spaces in action, the NixOS Community has a well-organized Matrix Space at #community:nixos.org

https://matrix.to/#/#community:nixos.org

rakwoelq• 5 years ago

The Fedora community also created one recently.

https://matrix.to/#/#fedora-space:fedoraproject.org

thibaultamartin2• 5 years ago

GNOME says hi with #community:gnome.org :)

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

or https://matrix.to/#/#space:ansible.im for Ansible :)

sanqui• 5 years ago

Super exciting. Time to start bridging Discord servers to Matrix Spaces and encouraging people to switch, one community at a time.

crowbahr• 5 years ago

I wish there was a good Discord:Matrix bridge but I've never been able to get anything useful working nor does it seem like Discord will ever allow something like that on their platform.

encryptluks22• 5 years ago

Except many servers are unreliable and overloaded. Plus, Discord audio just works and you don't have to worry about your chats randomly disappearing.

podiki• 5 years ago

Discord/Matrix bridging works well for me! I wrote up a guide here: https://boilingsteam.com/how-to-bridge-discord-in-matrix/

kovek3• 5 years ago

Setting up a matrix server on an ec2 took a few evenings (lots of reading docs). Then, setting up discord was supposed to be more configuration…

Element has hosted instances for 10$/month and discord bridges for 20$/month?

Does anyone else run hosted matrix instances with bridges? I might pay 10$/month for that.

Or, are there AMI instances for that? I couldn’t find any.

gpanders• 5 years ago

I found the Ansible playbook [1] on GitHub extremely easy to use. As long as you know how to configure DNS records and firewalls, the rest is taken care of. This is what I use today to manage my Synapse server.

Also Oracle Cloud offers free ARM instances with 4 CPU cores and 24 GB of RAM, more than enough to run a very speedy Synapse server.

[1] https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy

espacess• 5 years ago

I've been using the spaces to keep all my messenger bridged rooms from cluttering the home space, its been working quite delightfully.

KitDuncan• 5 years ago

Would be cool if you could tell the bridge to automatically move all telegram chats to your designated telegram space...

iruoy• 5 years ago

A graphic that shows the hierarchy/differences of all the possible spaces/groups/rooms would be nice. Because as I understand it these are 3 different things and there are different variants of each.

callahad11• 5 years ago

Groups ("Communities") are a legacy, underspecified extension to the Matrix protocol; it's best to ignore them as they will go away soon. Spaces are the properly specced replacement for Groups.

From a user perspective, Spaces are containers which can hold an arbitrary number of Rooms or other Spaces. Like Rooms, Spaces can be public, private (invite only), or "restricted" (only joinable by members of another specified Room or Space).

At a technical level, Spaces are actually implemented as Rooms.

In Matrix, Rooms maintain state. Spaces are just rooms whose state indicates that they should be treated as a space ("type": "m.space" on the m.room.create event), and which have pointers to other rooms/spaces which it considers as children (m.space.child events). This means that a single Room can exist in many Spaces, as membership points from the space to its children, rather than in the opposite direction.

liotier• 5 years ago

Can an existing room be moved to a space ?

progval• 5 years ago

Where can I find the Space specifications? I don't see it in the main documentation (https://matrix.org/docs/spec/), and "matrix spaces specification" in a search engine does not return anything relevant.

dmitriid4• 5 years ago

Neither Slack nor any of the Slack clones can figure the most simple of things: tabs.

Instead they all insist on having just one window with a 10-kilometer long list of rooms/chats/channels on the left that you have to switch between in a single window.

This becomes especially frustrating when you have several active chats going on at the same time, or when you want to retain some info on the screen while answering in a separate chat/channel.

jeroenhd• 5 years ago

In Element (on desktop at least) spaces act like tabs to order the massive vertical list of chats. On mobile these spaces are hidden in the slide-in menu.

dmitriid4• 5 years ago

You still need to go through the whole process of creating a Space even if it's just some place in a chat that you want open while you're having a conversation in another chat.

You still have to use the same window to switch between them.

These are not tabs.

howenterprisey• 5 years ago

By "tabs", the person to which you replied meant the ability to view multiple chats at the same time, I think.

filleokus• 5 years ago

I think MS Teams is worst about this, because they have so much functionality crammed in the app.

I constantly find myself switching between the Calendar view / channel view when planning a meeting, or between channels when referencing a PDF shared in the "Files" section of a different channel. Super annoying.

robertlagrant2• 5 years ago

Yes - it's the worst here, because they're trying to surface so many products in Teams for some reason.

callahad11• 5 years ago

This may be heretical but... I just use Element in my browser. If I need another tab, I open another tab. Did the same thing when I worked at a company that used Slack.

ivank• 5 years ago

https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ is a client with tabs for Slack and Discord. Unfortunately it does not provide all the functionality of the web interfaces, though.

nyanpasu643• 5 years ago

Also technically you can get banned from Discord for using third-party clients. Some people have used it and gotten away, some people weren't so lucky.

nerdponx5• 5 years ago

It's not just tabs. I am in so many damn Discord servers and Matrix rooms that I want to be able to view, filter, sort, and modify them in a table. I want to be able to do bulk operations. I want to be able to tag them and group them into hierarchies, with a UI that promotes doing such things, rather than obstructs.

justshowpost• 5 years ago

Someone please make a Matrix client that looks like VSCode.

The editor of the current file is the current opened room, and tabs to switch between rooms. The explorer shows rooms as files and spaces as folders that can be expanded/collapsed. Also support for keyboard shortcuts like CMD+P to quickly open a room.

bajsejohannes2• 5 years ago

This seems to built for people with a lot of rooms/people. I think it's a classic mistake to enable it for all users, and I see it in all kinds of products. Everyone starts out by building something simple, but eventually it's bloated with features that I don't need (I'm sure someone does).

Personally, I use matrix every day. However, it's only for a single room. With this new feature, I lost 70 "pixels" (or 140 actual pixels) of horizontal space.

rablackburn• 5 years ago

I think this feature enables a much more discord-like environment, in which case it totally makes sense why they enabled to for everyone.

Like it or not, discord has taken the market for a lot of younger software projects and geeky communities. If we could get them to use foss matrix instead that’d be a huge win.

AgentME• 5 years ago

I'm a big fan of Matrix becoming more Discord-like. I've been in many small to medium group chats and internet communities over the last decade. About everyone I know from those jumped over to Discord shortly after it came out, and its structure ("servers" that are easy to create by anyone being the main unit which contains not only channels but a member list, roles, and moderators instead of having those each per-channel) is such an upgrade over everything we used before, to the point I was baffled that the design wasn't more copied by others. (Yeah I know that IRC is somewhat similar, but the differences make all the difference. Anyone being able to make a "server", it having a graphical identity, being able to join it through a link, that you don't register in an arcane way on each one all over again with an unconnected identity, that you get channel history, that it's integrated with voice/video chat channels, and that you're a member of all channels in it are all huge factors in how they shape their social spaces and get used.)

ShinyRice• 5 years ago

I'm fairly sure you can collapse most UI elements though.

callahad11• 5 years ago

We hear the desire to fully hide the Spaces sidebar loud and clear. It wasn't a blocker for leaving Beta, but we are tracking that request in https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/18898

emaro• 5 years ago

Or you could use a client which doesn't support spaces.

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

You’re right that spaces aren’t useful if you’re only in one room(!). Just like a mail client doesn’t need to support mail folders if you only ever have one conversation going on. As others have said, we’ll add the option to hide the spacepanel if you want. Also, you may want to just use a much simpler Matrix client (eg https://hydrogen.element.io - the lightest element!) if you’re only in one room.

In general, Spaces reduce bloat though - they speed up the app by reducing the amount of data the app has to juggle as you filter based on a given space, and they stop your UI and brain being clogged up with irrelevant rooms.

bajsejohannes2• 5 years ago

Thanks! I will try hydrogen!

spinax• 5 years ago

Hello! Hydrogen sorely needs 2 basic things to make it usable as a daily driver - separate DM one-on-one conversations away from Rooms and add a Dark mode toggle. These two things push me back to app.element.io, must-have not nice-to-have things for me. Thanks for listening.

_abox• 5 years ago

Yes MS Teams is a great example.

It started as a Slack knock-off. Not a great one, the UI is too low density and the multi tenant support sucks unlike Slack's. But it was relatively snappy. And free for O365 users. But lately they've been adding many apps, Wikis, all these fancy meeting modes that make it seem like everyone is in a theatre and many more fluffy things.

Now the app is so slow it takes more than a minute to start up. It often crashes with stupid error messages "Oops! Something went wrong!" that give zero indication of what actually happened.

At the same time MS is heavily pushing companies to adopt it but they're devaluing the product as they go by making it some kind of Swiss army knife with all the trimmings.

They're now realising the performance issue and moving away from Electron towards Edge webview but I think what it really needs is a proper architectural review. They've been too focused on beating the market adding new features and its core functions have suffered.

nerdponx5• 5 years ago

I don't recall Teams ever being "snappy". It has always felt like a half-broken beta product.

The one thing I liked about it was the balance of "threaded conversation" and "chat" that it promoted with its UI, which was good for the data science team I was on at the time. Of course nowadays I would suggest using Zulip for the same purpose.

robertlagrant2• 5 years ago

I like when they embed views (e.g. PowerBI) in it, but as soon as you click off it to see a message and click back, it has to reload it all. It's like IE6 - a pre-tabs browsing experience.

athenot• 5 years ago

It started as a Slack knock-off.

More like a Webex Teams knock-off, as MS went after the Unified Communications space (group chat + video meetings, though they still lack contact center and hybrid meeting hardware).

normaler• 5 years ago

I use spaces to organize different bridged services, Whatsapp, Instagram, Telegram, Signal and Matrix itself.

As a subset of rooms to organize a team, I think it would make more sense to host a separate matrix instance.

But it can be nice to give access to a set of rooms in a public community akin to:

- General - Dev Product A - Dev Product B - Watercooler - Sysad

nerdponx5• 5 years ago

I do this with spaces too. But it occurred to me that I'm essentially abusing spaces to act like client-side folders/groupings of rooms.

Can you create a space that's only for "personal" use, if you are not an admin of your home server?

Spaces are a great feature, but I think clients will start needing to add grouping/tagging somehow, in addition.

smichel17• 5 years ago

Can you create a space that's only for "personal" use, if you are not an admin of your home server?

Yes

kevincox• 5 years ago

Spaces are a superset of tagging. Just create a space (tag) and the rooms that you want to tag to it. If you want it to be just for you keep the space invite-only, if you want to share your "tag" you can.

the_duke• 5 years ago

I'm essentially abusing spaces to act like client-side folders/groupings of rooms.

That's exactly one of the intended purposes!

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

For what it’s worth, the thing I find really exciting about Spaces is that they provide a way to create a decentralised global hierarchical directory structure for realtime data. It’s like a free-for-all global USENET hierarchy that anyone can curate or contribute to, complete with decentralised ACLs. Or like DMOZ but for chatrooms. We haven’t published a “root” space as Matrix.org yet (as the “subspace” hierarchy feature is still in beta), but I cannot wait to kill off the public room directory for Matrix.org (which is a total tirefire atm) and replace it with decentralised hierarchies of rooms that the community can moderate and curate like any other content.

Add in voice/video rooms, async comms (messageboards, forums, mailing lists, newsgroups), decentralised metaverse worlds like thirdroom (https://youtu.be/e26UJRCGfGk?t=2263) and then you end up with a skeleton for a whole open universe of interoperable communication.

Next up: decentralised search for discovery as well as decentralised hierarchies…

pixxel• 5 years ago

Exciting for sure!

nynx• 5 years ago

That sounds amazing. Something I’ve been wondering is if matrix supports specifying custom UIs for rooms somehow. For example, could a room have the ui of an issue tracker without it being through an additional program or website?

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

Yup. We call this "widgets", and it lets you embed arbitrary web UI into a Matrix client. MSC1236 is the base proposal (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/1236) which Element implements, and there are a stack of other proposals on top of it which need to be merged into the main spec.

This is how Element embeds Jitsi today, and was extensively used for FOSDEM 2021 (https://matrix.org/blog/2021/02/15/how-we-hosted-fosdem-2021...). We're currently adding "full-screen" widgets too, though, as well as "inline widgets" (for polls etc).

MayeulC4• 5 years ago

That's quite interesting, thanks for the insight!

I hadn't thought about the possibility for spaces to replace the room directory, although it will always be needed to some extent.

Spaces could also be useful for moderation/reputation, child rooms (and users) could inherit some score from a space. It should be possible to compute the shortest distance between two spaces from a user's perspective. Even stuff like ignored users could be part of a per-user space used for computing "reputation" points. Kind of a space-based social graph.

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

Space hierarchies already have a binary social graph effectively in the form of their decentralised ACLs (i.e. PLs etc). You could group MSC2313 (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2313) reputation lists into a space hierarchy though to curate them though... and assign reputation to spaces similarly to rooms via MSC2313 too.

kovek3• 5 years ago

Wow! I always think these can be somehow generalized: Uber, Craigslist, Facebook Market, ebay. Connecting buyer/seller. Maybe it will be possible to index/search through Matrix and connect people together better?

olah_12• 5 years ago

I cannot wait to kill off the public room directory for Matrix.org

I didn't realize that Spaces would finally allow for this! The public room directory is a horrible user experience today and really turns people off. I'm so glad that your team recognizes that too!

So is the idea that each Matrix server can have their own root Space that they direct people to? Kinda like an "instance timeline" in Mastodon?

Akronymus• 5 years ago

Spaces also allow for pretty nice access controls.

So that you can prevent most cases of bots just collecting all history. And because you can nest spaces, it also allows basically ad hoc organizing.

For example, on a open source project you could have a top space for it itself, then subspaces for contributors, users, code reviewers and such. In the code reviewers space you could then have one where confidental issues can be discussed.

atatatat2• 5 years ago

Arathron and team are UX gods — just give them time.

southerntofu2• 5 years ago

Congratulations on going out of beta! Spaces have many interesting properties indeed. I read that there was some interop between Spaces and Microsoft Teams, but i couldn't find the source code. Could you point me to it?

Related: i've read most of the specs API but like all specs in decentralized RFC ecosystems (W3C, XSF, MSC) but i find it hard to understand what version of what document is currently implemented. Is there a document summarizing all APIs/concerns for this feature, and/or a document specifically intended for interoperability with other networks/protocols?

Gargyle• 5 years ago

As admin and programmer: I didnt understand what spaces are trying to do when it was presented to me.

hda111• 5 years ago

Thinks looks interesting. For replacing Discord. Is there also an audio chat function?

ajvs• 5 years ago

Yes.

thibaultamartin2• 5 years ago

Voice Messages are thing, but are not exactly like Discord voice rooms: https://element.io/blog/introducing-voice-messages-and-so-mu...

But Matrix is an open protocol that everyone can improve. The Specifications Change Proposals are open to everyone willing to formalise the change they want, get it reviewed, and implement it so it works in practice.

And there is a Matrix Spec Change going in the direction of Discord-like voice chat rooms! (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/matthew/group-..., and in particular https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/matthew/group-...)

MayeulC4• 5 years ago

I have suggested integrating with Mumble before, it would be a great way to interact.

Add a "info.mumble.servers" or "info.mumble.channels" state event, some magic on murmur's side to authenticate using Matrix, and roll with it in your own Matrix client. Pinned messages with mumble:// URIs could be used as a fallback.

One of the issues is that upstream mumble lacks support for websockets, so web clients are impossible. Otherwise, it sounds quite promising.

I even suggested something along these lines, but haven't had time to cook up a prototype: https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/1813#issuecomme... (there seems to have been some back-and-forth on that idea since then).

jarbus• 5 years ago

No, you can't just hop into a room and be connected via audio sadly. One of the biggest things preventing me from using matrix as a replacement for discord

brainsmith• 5 years ago

That's awesome for teams to focus on just work conversations but unfortunately not enough.

We've completely switched our work communication to a self-hosted matrix+element with SSO, so we can be sure our matrix auth is secured the same way our other internal services are.

However, some of us also have personal matrix accounts which are offline during work hours and corporate accounts are offline outside of work hours which forbids using matrix as an emergency contact method. It would be great to either ability to sign into multiple accounts or an ability to sign into a single space using account other than the default one.

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

Yup. Multiaccount is desperately needed in Element. Other Matrix clients (FluffyChat, Quaternion, possibly Nheko?) have it already though)... plus you can always cheat and just open Element in multiple browser tabs :)

diftraku2• 5 years ago

I got around the single-account limitation on Element by installing a work profile on my Android phone using Shelter[1]. I initially spotted this from HN while we were looking at migrating from Slack to Matrix and I wanted to keep my personal account separate.

Works surprisingly well for my use-case (keep work stuff separate on Element) and even allows me to disconnect completely from work by simply turning off the profile.

[1] https://github.com/PeterCxy/Shelter

Edit: added note about using Android

atatatat2• 5 years ago

I've never seen a good implementation of this.

It's either obtrusive to the UI, or completely hidden.

Stack accounts at the OS level, or close to it.

Your advice to run a separate browser tab is by far the best — even if on mobile.

nix23• 5 years ago

I one corporation they used pagers exactly for that emergency situation, some techies just wanted a smartphone timeout at weekends etc (aka don't have to check your phone every 30minutes). But if the pager rings you know it's something serious.

I think that is a great idea.

usbfingers• 5 years ago

Syphon (https://syphon.org) landed Multiaccount support several months back, though it still lacks many other features.

southerntofu2• 5 years ago

forbids using matrix as an emergency contact method

I think it's good policy that your work communication tools are unavailable outside of work hours. It's actually mandated by worker protection laws in many countries (France included).

But if your work contract specifies you have compensation for staying reachable on an emergency basis, why not have a dedicated emergency channel where both personal and work accounts are subscribed?

dnh442• 5 years ago

Does anyone know if the iOS application is native or does use it use some type of web-tech or cross-platform sdk?

cvwright• 5 years ago

You're being downvoted, but I originally had the same question.

It's actually a native app. It's mostly Objective C, but increasingly written in Swift. https://github.com/vector-im/element-ios

There is clearly room for improvement, but apparently they just hired a handful of new iOS developers to work on it. Good things should be coming soon.

olah_12• 5 years ago

Yep. iOS has been woefully neglected in the past, but it does seem like they are directing more attention to it lately.

dnh442• 5 years ago

That's great thanks for answering; I'll give it a go.

naomeux• 5 years ago

I love how clean and minimal-looking the UI is. Internet community should become aware of Spaces in the element app.

aasasd• 5 years ago

Cool, cool. I wonder if non-botching of newlines, paragraphs and quotes is anywhere on the roadmap. Apparently that's the hard problem for Element, especially the Android version.

2Gkashmiri3• 5 years ago

Can I finally install matrix on a cheap server for semi private - semi public server ? Or do I have to wait for the new server ?

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

yes. synapse’s reaource usage has reduced massively in the last few months.

2Gkashmiri3• 5 years ago

in terms of numbers, would it run on a 1gb vps now?

abnercoimbre2• 5 years ago

With Spaces shipped I want to recommend Element for my engineering conference. Unfortunately, Element on mobile is still more complicated than FluffyChat -- compare our install guides [0]. I feel the cost of Element when people e-mail me for tech support.

The fact Fluffy instantly lets you sign-in makes Element lag behind in UX, which matters a whole lot for transient conference goers.

[0] https://www.handmade-seattle.com/chat

laulis• 5 years ago

Fluffychat has Spaces support (click on the icon next to Fluffychat text)

abnercoimbre2• 5 years ago

Should've checked properly; thank you! I edited out the last sentence.

starik36• 5 years ago

For a second I thought there was a new rocket launch company and got excited.

I guess this is good too.

nyanpasu643• 5 years ago

A week ago, I noticed that Element Desktop was starting to hide "rooms in spaces" from my home screen, which now only contains rooms not in a space.

I really don't like how Element Android has you separately pick which space to view (in the sidebar), and whether to look at DMs or rooms (in the bottom bar). Now I often end up picking the KDE space, but only showing DMs, which results in an empty view (because I've only joined KDE-related chats, not KDE-related DMs).

I think I'd prefer a list of spaces where I can set rules for what goes where. For example, I want to create a space called "Contacts", where I first manually pin my "self-room" for note-taking and test messages to the top, then ask Element to add all DMs I'm in, ordered by "most recent" or manual order. Then I want a space called KDE where I place specific KDE-related rooms inside. Then have a space called "Rooms" with the leftover non-KDE rooms.

In the process, I'd remove the Android client's bottom DM/room selector (unsure what to do with the notification tab), replace it with 2 "default spaces" in the left sidebar (one for DMs and the other for rooms, but with user-customizable rules), and let user-created spaces coexist alongside the two default spaces.

The end result would work something like a hybrid of Telegram's automatic rules, Discord's single DM namespace followed by a server list, and Matrix's current spaces system. Unfortunately, it seems Element has officially released the Spaces feature, ignoring (or not even seeing) my feedback a week ago in the Matrix HQ room. I don't know if they're still accepting changes to how spaces operate.

throwawayIxZCg2• 5 years ago

I really don't like how Element Android has you separately pick which space to view (in the sidebar), and whether to look at DMs or rooms (in the bottom bar). Now I often end up picking the KDE space, but only showing DMs, which results in an empty view (because I've only joined KDE-related chats, not KDE-related DMs).

Yes, switching between a DM in one space and a room in another takes at least one tap too many. Hopefully this paragraph in the article expresses the intention to work on this:

Clearer interfaces: To make Spaces, Rooms, People, Direct Messages, Favourites and your conversation history easy to find over time, every time.

callahad11• 5 years ago

Element Desktop was starting to hide "rooms in spaces" from my home screen, which now only contains rooms not in a space.

To change this behavior, enable "Show all rooms in Home" under Settings > Appearance

nyanpasu643• 5 years ago

I don't see such an option on Arch Linux, guess I'll wait for the next update to arrive.

novocaine• 5 years ago

Great suggestions - thanks.

The information architecture of Spaces as presented in Element isn't perfect, and is at the top of the list of improvements we'd like to make as we iterate on the feature.

Releasing out of beta doesn't mean we intend to stop iterating on Spaces - it simply means we think the feature brings enough value to share it with everyone and open it up to the whole user base for feedback.

throwawayIxZCg2• 5 years ago

Are there any plans to add granting permissions to roles based on space membership (perhaps spaces which are not room's ancestors in any hierarchy but instead a cousin) instead of gradual power levels? And also sharing those permissions across all rooms in a space?

Arathorn11• 5 years ago

yup. the plans are at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2962 and an alternative proposal at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/3216

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