Telegram emerges as new dark web for cyber criminals

https://www.ft.com/content/cc3e3854-5f76-4422-a970-9010c3bc732b

by shelfchair • 5 years ago

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shelfchair• 5 years ago

https://archive.ph/d07B6

xan92• 5 years ago

Anything that doesn't comply with major governments is automatically a "dark web" for cyber criminals.

reginold3• 5 years ago

E2EE and open source seem to be on a collision course with the world "order".

p2t2p• 5 years ago

Or worlds order is stupid and outdated. Remove drug restrictions and you'll remove 80% of criminal

peakaboo• 5 years ago

Anything that doesn't comply with major governments is automatically a "dark web" for cyber criminals.

I came here to say that. I'm glad more people are not so ignorant anymore, and see what's going on. There is a clear agenda to demonize any service the government can't easily listen and record.

The way things are going with dystopian covid measures, I expect humanity to need systems that aren't controlled to put up resistence in the near future.

aschlafly• 5 years ago

Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone noticed the appalling quality of the FT's comments section? You'd think that the leading financial paper would be able to stop people from flaming each other in the comments. In their recent AUKUS coverage as well, there were commentors cheering on the idea of war.

wrycoder3• 5 years ago

I think this is a general problem with comment sections. It seems to be both a symptom and a major cause of the decline of civility in the 21st century.

HN is /very/ unusual.

reginold3• 5 years ago

Indeed! Any good writeups on what makes HN work like it does?

Barrin92• 5 years ago

comment sections on news websites are consistently so bad, to the point where a lot of them don't even remove strange MLM spam I think it's just better to turn them off tbh.

wrycoder3• 5 years ago

Yes, disappointingly bad across the political spectrum.

jjensen• 5 years ago

As a long-time FT subscriber, I and others have noticed a very steep decline over the last year or so. Before, I didn't always agree with the comments, but they were usually at least somewhat insightful. Some readers suspect an organized incursion of state-sponsored malefactors. One certainly notices more of the bile on certain types of subjects (Russia, China, internet, US political system) than others.

stereoradonc• 5 years ago

WhatsApp does the same. Facebook has issues around CSAM.

Yet Financial Times found Telegram a "haven for cybercriminals"!

johnisgood2• 5 years ago

Does Telegram have E2EE on phone ONLY still?

0x0000000012• 5 years ago

No, you can E2EE on all clients. But Secret Chats are always a 1:1 session between devices. You can't start a Secret Chat on one device and continue on another.

This might seem like an inconvenience but it avoids the pitfall leading to the recent Matrix exploits...

Arathorn• 5 years ago

Not sure that the solution to the risk of a bug in encrypted group chats is to mandate that group chats are unencrypted… Plus the Matrix bug was effectively a theoretical vulnerability rather than something actually being exploited.

johnisgood2• 5 years ago

https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple#2-why-are-there...

It literally is "Why are there no Secret Chats on desktop apps?".

They seem to provide a couple of reasons, so it seems like it is not going to be a thing?

Telegram emerges as new dark web for cyber criminals

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