Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV2umY3R0vw

by AbuAssar • 5 years ago

66 23 5 years ago

I understand the founders are pretty active here, I will ask a question:

From the reviews the Framework display is pretty reflective/shinny, will you consider adding an option for a matte display that would be easier to use in moderate sunlight/outside?

I wish you guys all the success and I hope the industry takes note of what tech should look like.

nrp• 5 years ago

The display is easy to replace, but we don't currently have plans for alternate versions.

eurasiantiger• 5 years ago

Remember, when something is too good to be true, it isn’t true, at least not in its entirety.

anshumankmr4• 5 years ago

There was a video on YouTube I watched years ago about how enthusiast brands will always betray its core user base. It was talking about One Plus and Essential. But I believe it applies to businesses in general. How will a company like this become mainstream? I hope something like this succeeds in the long-term but the way I see it most people don't want the hassle of worrying about how to repair their laptop or phone. This also stifles any major efforts taken towards the right to repair.

detaro• 5 years ago

Is that the right question? Does a company have to become mainstream?

anshumankmr4• 5 years ago

Okay. But if it wants to continue to serve it existing customer base, it will need to make money. It will need to incentivize people to work for it which will need a lot of money too. Plus it will need to keep up with R&D needed to make laptops (though nowadays laptops are not jumping forward in terms of technology except for increase in processing power and storage). People in other countries may also want to buy it, so to expand to other countries need money. Then there are factors like customer service,considering the fact most people wouldn’t know how to repair their devices. They would need to offer their own repair centers and call centers. This would be a significant investment too.

sharikone• 5 years ago

It's a rather common pattern in politics, that the people who you need in order to rise are not the same who you need in order to stay.

But yours is just a negative attitude. Framework could or could not betray its base, they could or could not fail and they could or could not be followed by other manufacturers.

In the meantime enjoy, if you want a fully serviceable laptop you have at least one option

anshumankmr4• 5 years ago

Welll, technically, in my country, India, the right to repair sort of already exists. I have gotten my devices repaired by third party vendors many times if my device was not under warranty.

AbuAssar3• 5 years ago

It also comes with 6 different port options, that you can mix and match!

(USB-A / USB-C x 2 / HDMI / DisplayPort / MicroSD)

imagine extending your laptop and customizing it, without using any external dongles and hubs!

websites20232• 5 years ago

Except that the ports are essentially custom dongles that lock into the case. So instead of relying on the full market to make a usb-c to whatever dongle in the future, you’re relying on Framework to do it. A single company. This is not better.

gorjusborg• 5 years ago

As long as the specs for the mechanical port are stable, which there is incentive for as users would be angry if they had to rebuy, it is better.

Third party companies could make compatible parts.

I look at this laptop as a proof of concept for something we should all want to exist: a modular and repairable laptop. Just because it isn't perfect doesn't make it bad.

vlmutolo• 5 years ago

This comment doesn't make much sense. First off, allowing you to customize the ports on the laptop is strictly better than not allowing you to customize them. If you want to use your USBC-to-whatever dongle, you're still free to do so.

Also, the expansion card design is open source and on GitHub, so that should encourage experimentation, and maybe even smaller for-profit manufacturing operations if FrameWork gets big enough.

If you want something to complain about re: the ports, it should be that you can only have four of them (including the charging port over USBC, I believe).

bsd44• 5 years ago

It gets 10/10 for being replaceable. That's it.

I have a Lenovo Thinkbook 13s that has slotted RAM and same spec as Framework's lowest model and it cost me £600 three years ago, this one costs $1000 (or £750) without tax. Seems a bit expensive because realistically all I would ever need to upgrade is memory. (I'd be careful upgrading the mobo/cpu/gpu without the ability to provide quality thermals to support the upgraded components.)

I intentionally seeked out a laptop with upgradeable RAM because I was "sick and tired of everything being soldered on bla bla bla" but honestly I will likely buy a new laptop before I decide to upgrade this one. There's nothing wrong with it technically, it's just that tech doesn't age well. I used to cry for solutions like a Framework Laptop, but then I realised I don't really need a modular laptop, I just liked the idea of having one and the freedom of choice that comes with it.

AbuAssar3• 5 years ago

refer to @cge comment below, looks like the company is pushing for an open market for the expansion cards.

ChrisArchitect• 5 years ago

comment referred to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27950388

villgax• 5 years ago

This pretty neat!

Rebelgecko• 5 years ago

Are they actually selling replacement parts? I couldn't find any listed on their website.

Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

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