SARS-CoV-2 reactive T-cells likely present due to prior exposure to flu viruses

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-92521-4

by walterbell • 5 years ago

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fddddd• 5 years ago

so much data extrapolation its hard to follow.

avocad• 5 years ago

But the people saying it was like a flu, were vilified.

glial• 5 years ago

Yeah, because they were saying the mortality rate is like the flu, which is wrong.

jb1991• 5 years ago

This article is not at all suggesting that the severity of the virus is the same as the flu.

lettergram2• 5 years ago

To honest, this was and should have been expected.

Dr. Michael Yeadon, Former VP of Pfizer Pharmaceuticals actually said as much...

Specifically, this section: https://youtu.be/8bX-wFVBP94?t=149

What's super interesting, perhaps giving everyone a different coronavirus may have been an effective vaccine.

There's a lot of other things we can't discuss, but I highly recommend researching.

https://austingwalters.com/covid19-vaccine-risks/

Kind of amazing we can't discuss any of this for the first 18 months.

ppf• 5 years ago

perhaps giving everyone a different coronavirus may have been an effective vaccine

Or allowing them to catch colds, which are coronaviruses 20% of the time.

abiogenesis• 5 years ago

No, a similarity between SARS-CoV-2 and other coronaviruses was expected but not this. Flu is not caused by a coronavirus. From the paper:

This finding is in contrast to multiple published studies in which pre-existing T-cell immunity is suggested to arise from shared epitopes between SARS-CoV-2 and other common cold-causing coronaviruses. However, our findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 reactive T-cells are likely to be present in many individuals because of prior exposure to flu and CMV viruses.

javagram2• 5 years ago

Michael Yeadon is a crazy conspiracy theorist who believes in the “great reset”.

It’s less about “can’t discuss” and more about his beliefs being ridiculous. He made many predictions in 2020 on the basis of his theories which turned out to be completely false, but hasn’t integrated that into his theories.

For instance, here’s a timeline of yeadon’s statements against the number of patients in hospital beds requiring mechanical ventilation to keep them alive… https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes/status/13555747545273753...

lettergram2• 5 years ago

Great reset isn’t a conspiracy theory: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset

They straight up say this stuff.

That being said I’m making no other claims, I just pointed out others have been saying we will have a partial immunity to covid19

javagram2• 5 years ago

Interesting article, I believe based on the methods section this is a computer simulation.

The t-cells from flu infections clearly didn’t provide complete protection against Covid-19 as 600,000 Americans died. But perhaps the death toll would be even worse. We’ve all seen the news stories where multiple family members in a single family die of Covid-19 and the explanation for how that happens with a virus where only approximately 0.6% of the infected die has always seemed a bit unknown (especially when it’s e.g. two people in their 50s both dying, who probably each had a survival chance of 99.9% or so based on their age).

I’m sure the authors would agree that even if you had a clinically diagnosed flu infection in 2019-2020 it’s probably a good idea to get the covid-19 vaccine anyway.

alexpc201• 5 years ago

It would be interesting to consider whether flu vaccines have lowered this cross-immunity and therefore so many deaths among the elderly who are the most vaccinated against the flu.

SARS-CoV-2 reactive T-cells likely present due to prior exposure to flu viruses

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