Hash functions and block ciphers

by cgs1019 • 15 years ago

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tptacek• 15 years ago

I like a lot of what Bob Jenkins writes, and I think(?) I may still be using his hash table library as my hash_t in my C code, but I still wouldn't use anything he designed in place of SHA256 or AES; so, just that word of caution.

wladimir• 15 years ago

That's appropriate, because hashing for hash tables has entirely different requirements than cryptographic hashing.

For a hash table you want a function that evaluates really fast, is short, but produces as little collisions as possible given that constraint.

A cryptographic hash can be slower and have more steps, but it should be extremely hard to find a plaintext with a pre-defined hash value, or produce collisions, or one of the many other threat scenarios.

brugidou• 15 years ago

i think it's worth pointing out the new murmurhash 3 for lookup table hashing, it has gone a long way and is supposed to be _really_ fast: http://code.google.com/p/smhasher/

The author of murmurhash actually based their work on Bob Jenkin's trying to make it speedier, and developed a nice hash test suite.

chanux• 15 years ago

Doesn't load for me.

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bajsejohannes• 15 years ago

> Also, % can be extremely slow (230 times slower than addition on a Sparc).

This is surprising. For comparison, I did a test on my Intel Core 2 Duo. Modulo turned out to be about 8.5 times slower than addition. A lot better than Sparc, but it might still be to slow for certain applications.

Hash functions and block ciphers

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