Neuroscience Prof Removed from APA Discussion for Saying There Are Two Genders

https://www.newsweek.com/neuroscience-professor-removed-apa-discussion-after-saying-there-are-only-two-genders-1591697

by georgecmu • 5 years ago

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MikeUt• 5 years ago

"I do not want to get into the particulars of the range of complaints over the years, but I will note that a number of members of the executive committee and others have voiced concerns publicly on the listserv in an attempt to make you aware of how readers of the list might view some of the posts,"

Vague accusations are so much easier to make and defend than specific ones.

madhadron4• 5 years ago

If you insist that there are only three phases of matter you can expect to get kicked off a physics listserv, too.

Looking over the publications of the professor in question, his career has been spent measuring and modeling operant conditioning to stimulus-response tasks. I would not expect him to have any particular knowledge of physiology, genetics, developmental biology, or psychology.

mgamache4• 5 years ago

Psychology is his field so I would say he does have expertise in that area. Do the others in the group have expertise in genetics and developmental biology? It exactly because they don't that they kicked him off. They could not argue with his correct assertion so they banned him.

madhadron4• 5 years ago

Psychology is his field so I would say he does have expertise in that area.

That's what I'm saying: look at his publications and research history. There is no reason to think he knows anything about the topic.

Do the others in the group have expertise in genetics and developmental biology? It exactly because they don't that they kicked him off. They could not argue with his correct assertion so they banned him.

Yes, they probably do, or at least have the minimal knowledge that the path from DNA to organism is not deterministic.

His assertion was also wrong. It's not like every cell is male or female. Biology doesn't work in absolutes like that. What we refer to as male or female is a whole collection of traits and interactions among traits. Empirically, we have people with gonads of both sexes. We have people who have hormonal systems with mismatched pieces. And then we get into the huge question of cultural expression of gender.

You're arguing the same "there's only three states of matter."

mgamache4• 5 years ago

Too funny, actually there is a Z chromosome used in sex determination (W & Z are counterparts to X & Y in birds). Also, sex is not determined strictly by genes it's determined by gamete size. And yes there are two sexes and gender is not binary, but it is by bimodal with significant overlap.

https://open.lib.umn.edu/evolutionbiology/chapter/7-4-sex-it...

young_unixer• 5 years ago

and gender is not binary, but it is by bimodal with significant overlap.

What's your definition of gender?

mgamache4• 5 years ago

It's what we might otherwise call sex roles:

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/2/e1500983

jbindel• 5 years ago

Why does the article accuse him of claims about “gender” while the quotes from him are all about “sex”?

Does the author of the article conflate the two?

Woodi• 5 years ago

Rejected from APA ? Need to check what APA is - American Psychological Association's LOL. You know psychology is barely science becose they keep ignoring some sources. And American PA is well known to be political organization - whatever president you guys have there that pseudo-science PA acts accordingly. Example ? Obama and gender, Biden and same... Guys you seriously have problems with science there !

And I'm afraid yours so precious "national security" is secondary to money making too...

How you like opinions that wants to help you ?

kderbyma• 5 years ago

such unimportant things.

Neuroscience Prof Removed from APA Discussion for Saying There Are Two Genders

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