Server-side code is doing too much

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1350251607737442310

by hackernewslol • 6 years ago

16 26 6 years ago

Twitter needs to cease wasting my browser's time with their goddamn bird and whirling "wait" circle and just put up the goddamn tweet! And they need a javascript-free version.

kohlerm• 6 years ago

Elon is clueless and so are people who think that the use of java is the problem

gregjor3• 6 years ago

We need a Goldwater Rule for diagnosing infrastructure and code you’ve never seen.

colesantiago• 6 years ago

Bystander: "He's dead sir".

Detective: "No shit, I already knew that, what's new?"

anothernewdude• 6 years ago

Yeah, tear out all that useless security

permille4210• 6 years ago

Why in the holy fuck do any of you give a single shit about Musk's opinions on software engineering? He isn't a software engineer.

It's astounding to me that anyone considers Musk's opinion about software as having any value.

To help stave off the inevitable downvotes you idiots are sure to give me, I'll also address the point itself.

Most mobile devices do not gain a routable public IP address, so some third party server is required to establish a connection between users of a mobile service.

I agree that allowing anyone to run such servers provides more redundancy, but then they would not have control of their own service. Most creators of software want to remain in control of their baby so to speak.

The main reason services go down is not because of lack of computation power but lack of ability to have so many simultaneous network connections.

I think Musk is wrong that the problem is "the servers are doing too much".

Toutouxc2• 6 years ago

What? He was literally the CTO of a company sold for $305M, made his first money coding at the age of 12.

permille4210• 6 years ago

Being a CTO doesn't mean you have any value as a software engineer. Hell I was offered a role as a CTO. I turned that shit down. Babysitting others is not my forte, nor is spending my time running a business instead of learning more tech.

Am I supposed to be impressed by earning money coding at 12? I'm not. At all.

I assume this is what you are referring to ( Blastar for Spectravideo 318/328 ): https://ia803005.us.archive.org/4/items/blastar-elon-musk-sp...

Link to source code instead of image: https://undone.se/misc/blastar.txt

Some discussion about whether he is good at programming. https://www.quora.com/How-good-is-Elon-Musk-at-programming

It seems to amount to "he wrote some basic and assembly language a long time ago."

I call nonsense. I've written over 3 million lines of code over my career spread across 8 different languages. If what exists of Musk's code publicly means he is a programming genius then I must be a programming god.

By the way: I also wrote code at the age of 9. I was writing assembly language at 10. Despite this, what I did when I was a kid, or even middle age, doesn't mean squat. What matters is consistently writing high quality code over your entire career. Being a manager is not being a coder. They are very different.

Also, he doesn't have knowledge of what Signal services are doing internally so his comment is simply speculation.

You seem to hate my condemnation of his coding skills, but my condemnation of his twitter comment is no worse than his own mockery of Signal; a free service serving the community.

Elon Musk, afaiac is a rich asshole who doesn't do shit to contribute. If he is so great, where is his free replacement for Signal that is far better hmm? He can certainly afford to hire some people who actually know how to code to write it for him.

brutal_chaos_• 6 years ago

"Why in the holy fuck do any of you give a single shit about Musk's opinions on software engineering? He isn't a software engineer."

My thoughts exactly. I don't think he's very recent with his programming skills. Sure, he wrote code back in the day, but the industry has moved on quite a bit. Please show me I'm wrong if I am, it's always nice to learn new things.

emptysongglass2• 6 years ago

He is absolutely a software engineer. The guy used to sleep under his desk after he was exhausted from writing code all day building his first products. I urge you to read any of the biographies written about him if you care but otherwise please save the withering hate (and language).

permille4210• 6 years ago

I stand by my statements. Is this supposed to be his Github: https://github.com/ElonMusk Is this a joke?

I don't see why anyone should respect his opinions as a software engineer.

higerordermap• 6 years ago

I think this was posted for comedy value, at least in part.

permille4210• 6 years ago

Hmm. Alright I'll buy that. That is at least a sensible reason why this reached front page.

It still disgusts me that we are elevating random tweets from this guy to being major news. Please can we elevate tiny ideas of people who know wtf they are talking about to an equal level?

gregjor3• 6 years ago

Elon has been married three times and is working on number four. He's fathered seven children. I think he absolutely knows something about scaling the server side.

Somehow he also found time to invent self-driving cars and send a rocket to Mars, and car into orbit. I only have three children and I could barely manage making breakfast for them, forget about going to Mars.

permille4210• 6 years ago

If he knows so much about scaling he should know that, in most cases, the crappy quality of most server side code is irrelevant because it can be compensated for. If he was the amazing businessman that he pretends to be he would make a convincing criticism as to the lack of funds that led to inability to handle the load, not an immature and idiotic remark like he did.

You know why he has been married so many times? My opinion is because the guy is a fucking dick. I am married and remain married. Zero divorce? Why? I'm not a dick.

Sending a rocket to Mars is useless. Self driving cars haven't improved the world for anyone. I'll agree that the advancement in tech is good over time, and that the change in regulations is positive, but I don't think Musk is the humanitarian he is thought to be.

Server-side code is doing too much

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