Ask HN: Which services have figured out a way for revenue after gaining users

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by bigbang • 18 years ago

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Im just curious. A lot of people say, they will figure out a revenue model, once they start gaining user base. Which of these companies have done it? Most of the cool sites I know of are still free and dont make much(if any at all) and they all have been for few years.

Im trying hard to think of a company which gained lots of users and started making money. They keep saying "we will eventually", but nobody so far???

PS: Related question-A lot of startups (including the one Im bootstrapping) doesnt seem to care much about any revenue, but if the startup fails to get acquired(but does have significant user traction ), what are the options?

nostrademons• 18 years ago

Google. That's the one everyone points to.

There're a bunch of other ones that look like they're not making any money, but actually are, usually through advertising or corporate deals. Reddit. FaceBook. HotOrNot. PlentyOfFish. LiveJournal. MySpace. Skype. YouTube (though I believe YouTubes revenues are less than Google expected when they bought it).

bilbo0s• 18 years ago

Generating revenue and making money are generally considered two different things in business circles. Many believe that making money implies being profitable. It can have the meaning you are ascribing to it. That is, having customers give you money, that's generally considered to be only a part of making money though. The other part is keeping costs low enough that your business generates a profit. Even subject to the more stringent requirements, several of the companies you mentioned qualify.

I have doubts about YouTube being profitable, perhaps you have some inside info on this though. Certainly Google's quarterly reports indicate some challenges there.

Similarly Facebook could be massively profitable if they would cut costs. That profitability would fall well short of justifying a USD15 Billion valuation, but they could be more profitable. It is difficult to tell whether or not Facebook is profitable at the minute, because they can give any story they want as they have yet to go public. Whoever said 'There are lies . . . damn lies . . . and statistics', was probably unfamiliar with the world of corporate accounting, or they would have used 'accounting' in place of 'statistics'.

noodle• 18 years ago

if you have any intent of getting money out of a startup or running a successful business, you need to design and build with the revenue model in mind. even if its a purely ad-driven model.

companies have fund success building first and monetizing later, but its the exception, not the rule.

Ask HN: Which services have figured out a way for revenue after gaining users

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