Police confiscate German Pirate Party’s servers

http://piratenblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/police-confiscate-german-pirate-party%E2%80%99s-servers-servergate/

by rmoriz • 15 years ago

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rmoriz4• 15 years ago

see also http://vorstand.piratenpartei.de/2011/05/20/polizei-beschlag... (scroll down for english version)

rmoriz4• 15 years ago

current rumors:

reason may be the public hosted etherpad ("piratenpad") and a direction by the french public prosecutor's office

arecibodrake• 15 years ago

I wonder what could have been on it that would be so interesting to the heat?

martin_k3• 15 years ago

Anonymous allegedly took down two police websites in return. http://twitter.com/anon2060/statuses/71577232199524352

joelthelion2• 15 years ago

That doesn't help much.

martin_k3• 15 years ago

Well, taking down Paypal and Visa after they stopped processing Wikileaks donations didn't "help much" either. But it is some form of protest after all.

antihero• 15 years ago

The internet is like the last place we have left where the powers that be are afraid of the people.

rmoriz4• 15 years ago

News:

Websites of the German Police (http://polizei.de) and Federal Criminal Police Office (http://bka.de) are currently unreachable. rumors: Anonymous disabled the sites

stygianguest• 15 years ago

I wonder why it is so easy to take down these sites, as I am under the impression that Anonymous consists mostly of script kiddies. Are these attacks DDoS? That shouldn't be too hard to arrange if you're with enough people + perhaps some unemployed botnets.

sorbus3• 15 years ago

Yeah, they're all DDoSes. Look into the Low Orbit Ion Cannon; it used to be (and may still be) the tool that they used.

The hacks that are attributed to Anonymous seem to be mostly be the work of a small core of actual hackers who either use Anonymous as cover or support its ideology.

tomjen3• 15 years ago

It wouldn't be difficult for anyone here to make the sites much more difficult to protect but these are government sites which means they likely have incapable people working who are tied down by sixteen layers of bureaucracy.

jk49304• 15 years ago

German Pirate Party == leftist pot heads (mostly coming from the green and socialist parties) with some affinity to computers. Most of them are obese. And usually don't shower. And don't know how to dress. It's pathetic. :)

Now they try to extend their political agenda with typical leftist stuff: basic income for all, anti-business, open borders for all a.s.o. and the few women try to push some vegan ideology. The funny thing is that their agenda was 100% predictable from their physical appearance.

The good thing is that they're almost history. They had their time of hype and media attention and now they cripple around and nobody cares.

sorbus3• 15 years ago

You should probably read the guidelines again. http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

jk49304• 15 years ago

Where's the problem? This is something I do tell people into their faces (because it's true) and it's not the start of a flamewar but my educated observation (being in politics for more than 16 years).

All my points mentioned are relevant to see where these fellas are coming from and why they won't succeed. And these are only the obvious points. It gets worse with the fact that most of them are politically naive. They are morons because (political) hackers would consume the existing literature on the social domain first before making stupid proposals that won't work. (Most of their proposals won't work either because they get the incentives wrong or they don't scale.)

Not everything you don't like reading is against the guidelines.

rmoriz4• 15 years ago

News: German news magazine Spiegel Online says (Headline), the raid was caused because some users used the hosted etherpad ("piratenpad") of the Pirat Party to plan attacks on french power provider EdF (Électricité de France).

Source (German): http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,763939,00....

piratenblog2• 15 years ago

the page listed here is mine, and i am quite surprised how many people were looking at it. if you have any questions, just make a comment here or on my blog and i will try to answer it.

the text on the page is NOT mine, it was written by the party. i am a member of the party since early 2007 and we had similar problems in 2008 (the spokesperson mentioned was me) http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-official-raided-after-u...

piratenblog2• 15 years ago

some news here, the german pirate party has just made an official complaint at the district court Darmstadt.

http://twitter.com/#!/Piratenpartei/statuses/717265175871569...

Police confiscate German Pirate Party’s servers

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