Adapteva founder promises 4,000-cores with new Epiphany architecture

http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/6/epiphany-promises-performance-breakthrough/

by ghalfacree • 15 years ago

24 10 15 years ago

thinq.co.uk

andrewcooke• 15 years ago

anyone have more info? their site http://www.adapteva.com/index.php doesn't have much (no white papers)

thesz• 15 years ago

This is actually a Transputer, side view.

This will suffer from many Transputer's sins and some new ones.

I did a research on chip interconnects, the uniform grid interconnect had shown some unpleasant behaviours, like sudden deadlocks.

iskander• 15 years ago

>Olofsson has a new idea - or, specifically, a variation on an old one...it was common for a central processor to have a 'math co-processor' chip alongside it - a secondary processor which was designed specifically to carry out floating point arithmetic at speeds significantly faster than the main processor

This is exactly how people are currently using GPUs right now. How is this architecture better than a Fermi?

>"A guy straight out of college who's done a course in C programming can take a program and run it on our machine. There's no new constructs to run - you can take a program with legacy code and run it straight out of the box on our machine, and you can't do that on GPU."

If they're using only static compilation, this is very unlikely to be true. A few thousand Ph.D. theses have been sunk into parallelizing imperative programs. Despite the accumulation of sophisticated compiler techniques, it doesn't really work without extensive annotations and cooperation from the programmer. The programmer often ruins potential parallelism by accidentally creating dependencies between loop iterations. Even when analyzing ideal code, the program text doesn't contain sufficient information about the data size to create a good partition.

However, there's some small chance this isn't empty hype and they've actually made some cool breakthrough in runtime parallelization of imperative code. In that case, though, why would they be hyping vaporous hardware rather than just applying their fancy JIT compiler to existing multicore systems?

DanWaterworth3• 15 years ago

I too doubt that they have any thing new with regard to parallelization of imperative programs. If the only way to utilize all cores is either by writing functionally or by manual parallelization then they don't really have a significant advantage over FPGA coprocessors. I do agree with them however when they say that this approach is better than creating lots of general purpose cores.

DanWaterworth3• 15 years ago

What no one has mentioned is that 4000 stacks is a lot of memory.

sedachv• 15 years ago

"A few thousand Ph.D. theses have been sunk into parallelizing imperative programs."

This waste of talent continues to piss me off to no end. Why would people willingly spend time on this problem?

soundsop• 15 years ago

Because the reward of a breakthrough is extremely high.

aidenn0• 15 years ago

Okay I Olofsson completely failed to establish ethos with me when he called MIPS a "great architecture" Anybody who has done systems programming on MIPS knows how painful it is (particularly in pre V2)

Adapteva founder promises 4,000-cores with new Epiphany architecture

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