Vegetarian and vegan diets and risks of total and site-specific fractures

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01815-3

by nouveaux • 6 years ago

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rfdonnelly• 6 years ago

One take on this study: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyGZW8Ml9l0

A few points:

* It is a legitimate unbiased study

* Need to consider the database used. It follows people starting in the 90s. A lot has changed with respect to vegan diets since then.

* Consuming sufficient calcium shows no additional risk in fractures

* More body weight (e.g. overweight) makes bones stronger which reduces risk of fractures

copperx• 6 years ago

Probably one can simulate overweight by doing weight training?

throwaway1892624• 6 years ago

Yes. There's even evidence that doing weight training when you're a young adult increases bone strength permanently

throwaway1892624• 6 years ago

I think it's strange how vegan diets are marketed as "healthy". Humans have evolved to need protein in their diet. Until modern times, a vegan diet meant death. Just because it's possible now with various meat substitutes doesn't mean it's healthy

PZ81JUXJE7uJ• 6 years ago

What? Have you ever heard of soy, beans, lentils, chickpeas or the huge variety of seeds? You don't need meat to get your protein, as many eastern folks have proofed over many many years.

throwaway1892624• 6 years ago

Exactly, this huge variety of non-meat protein sources is new. As recent as 100 years ago you ate whatever you could get ahold of. And that always included some meat if you didn't want to die.

Many of these new sources don't have complete protein profile needed to be healthy.

neverminder• 6 years ago

All that is meaningless considering that some of the most essential elements do not naturally exist in plant based food. Creatine, Taurine, Vitamins D3 and B12 just to name a few.

mcntsh4• 6 years ago

You don't need "meat substitutes" to eat a well-balanced, vegan diet. Chickpeas are more calorie/protean dense than chicken and beef, for example.

1_player2• 6 years ago

And full of phytates which impair absorption of minerals. There's much more to food than just macronutrients.

Vegan diets work great until you get IBS, which unfortunately affects more and more people with no discernible cause. Meat, so reviled these days, doesn't.

Vegetarian and vegan diets and risks of total and site-specific fractures

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