How I deployed my Django app onto DotCloud

http://kencochrane.net/blog/2011/04/deploying-my-django-application-to-dotcloud/

by KenCochrane • 15 years ago

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chopsueyar• 15 years ago

That sucks about not knowing what was causing the errors. Too many variables.

kaerast• 15 years ago

That has been my issue with Dotcloud too, when it works its fine - when it breaks its really difficult to debug. It feels more restricted than the Heroku environment too, so even if I do know what's wrong it can't be fixed.

jjm• 15 years ago

In that respect Dotcloud would need some more abstraction, almost fire and forget for some of this to be Heroku like.

But, I love competition and these guys are living the dream. Hope they continue to kick ass and add features.

jpetazzo2• 15 years ago

Hi, DotCloud'er here! Those timeout errors are pretty common, and we are working very hard to reduce them. Almost all operations should be idempotent - meaning that you can repeat them without any danger. Basically: if the 1st time didn't work, the 2nd time will do; if the 1st time did work, the 2nd time won't do anything.

We got a fairly massive growth, and a lot of internal components required to be upscaled much earlier than planned. As we rewrite, optimize, and weed out bugs out of thos components, the timeouts will disappear, and the platform will be faster as a whole.

Just so you know - we are using the "eat your own dog food" principle as much as possible. API, website, docs... are all using the DotCloud platform itself, and we generally don't need escalated privileges to debug stuff. I think we need to be more explanatory about the various ways to inspect logs and debug code, since there is a lot more than meets the eyes :-)

I'm curious about how you feel that we are "more restricted than the Heroku environment"; I would really feel compelled to fix it in any case!

All the best,

beck52• 15 years ago

Out of ignorance & interest, if I'm familiar with the technologies I want is DotCloud worth it compared to say AWS etc?

Im guessing the main bonus for me would be having someone else worry about securing the server.

randall• 15 years ago

I've been experimenting with DotCloud (about to push my first site live soon) and I've found it's pretty freaking awesome. It runs on AWS, so basically it's outsourced sysadmin-ing. Give the guys some time and I think DotCloud will be the best platform. Given they just raised some funding, if they get their feature set right, it should work out pretty well.

beck52• 15 years ago

thanks, it will be interesting to see what the prices are and if its worth it (probably). The lack of control can be a bit scary.

bobx11• 15 years ago

That sure is a lot of steps when compared to Heroku... that's why Rails is gaining so fast on Python.

grokcode• 15 years ago

To be fair, DotCloud offers much more flexibility than Heroku. With DotCloud you can mix and match different stack components. Currently in beta: Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Python, Redis, Ruby, and SMTP. Plus there are tons of others in alpha, including more esoteric stuff like Erlang. DotCloud also supports any type of version control.

Heroku does Rails apps using Git, and thats it.

The tradeoff is flexibility vs. complexity.

How I deployed my Django app onto DotCloud

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