Journal 2.0: Mental Space for What Matters

https://blog.usejournal.com/introducing-journal-2-0-1667b4d295a

by samiur1204 • 6 years ago

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andersco2• 6 years ago

I went through a multi-step process of trying to access Journal on my phone: being redirected to desktop, checking my inbox for an invite email, going to journal.com, having to download a desktop app, signing in, and then...after all that, I am informed that Journal is invitation only. I'd suggest maybe informing users earlier in this process that the app is invitation-only.

samiur120411• 6 years ago

That's definitely a bug. Sorry for that experience! If you're on the desktop app, please hit create account before trying to sign in. That message is leftover from when we were an invite only product, and only shows up if you try to sign in without signing up. Sorry once again, and we'll have that fixed immediately!

andersco2• 6 years ago

Thanks for the quick reply. Works now!

algorithmsRcool2• 6 years ago

I understand the emphasis on getting users to sign up, but I wanted to read more to see where this might fit into my workflow.

- Does it support markdown?

- Can I export my notes?

- Are there any to-do list features?

bloaf2• 6 years ago

- How do I put math into it?

samiur120411• 6 years ago

Currently, you can't, but great suggestion! My background is in Machine Learning and I'd love to have that myself. What would be your preferred way to get math notation into notes? What do you think about a LaTeX formula inserter like http://mathquill.com/

samiur120411• 6 years ago

Hey, great questions: - We do support markdown as you're typing (they're turned into the appropriate element as you type). Currently, pasting markdown has some bugs, but we definitely intend to fix those soon. - Right now, you export a single note as a PDF. I figure you're asking, "can I export all my notes and take them with me". The answer to that is currently no, but we fully intend to support that. And if you need that in the meantime, we'll definitely do a one-time export for you. - Yes, you can create checkboxes in markdown, and we also have simple checklists ala Google Keep as objects. However, we don't have complex todo features such as due dates, assignees, dependencies, etc.

algorithmsRcool2• 6 years ago

Thank you for following up. I like the product. The UX is very nice and the workflow adds alot of value for me.

Definitely going to test it out.

2 things

1. On windows, your app is getting caught by SmartScreen. I imagine this will fix itself, but fyi.

2. How do I report bugs?

wittyreference3• 6 years ago

Is there a way to export the whole kit and kaboodle as a set of markdown files?

nikeita• 6 years ago

Any import tool from major notes app?

samiur120411• 6 years ago

We currently integrate with Evernote making your Evernote notes searchable and viewable from Journal, but we intend to make that a converter into Journal very soon.

Are there other tools you'd like us to support import from?

jshaqaw• 6 years ago

IThoughts would be great.

dmje• 6 years ago

I really want to see pricing, early on and massively obvious in the UI. I need to know if this is Oss or free, or if I'm gunna get hooked on something I can't afford...

samiur120411• 6 years ago

Great point, definitely need to add the pricing to our website! And no, we're not an open source app. In terms of pricing, we have a Free tier and a $10/month "Journal Plus" tier. Currently the differences between Free vs. Journal Plus are: 1. number of app integrations (2 vs. unlimited) 2. amount of data synchronized from those apps (last 14 days vs. years) 3. file size upload limit (10MB vs. unlimited)

One commitment I can make is that we'll never monetize off of your data or by dumping algorithmic ads on you. So, to do that, we're creating a subscription scheme that allows us to provide some powerful but expensive features, but also provide a very useful free tier.

wittyreference3• 6 years ago

What's the takeout process like?

I love having an external brain, but "lock-in" and "external brain" are mutually exclusive in my book.

simonebrunozzi• 6 years ago

Nothing against Journal in particular, but I'd happily bet a lot of money that it's going to be a subscription. 10$/month, or 100$/year, or something like that.

You should growing ARR to investors, they give you money, you grow the company, hire people, etc etc etc

Problem with note-taking: I mostly use notes. If I weren't too lazy I'd use vim or something like that.

I hate that everything is supposed to be a startup business with recurring revenue.

padmadevu• 6 years ago

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speedRS• 6 years ago

Usually my first and only questions when looking at trying a new note-taking app - have you implemented client-side encryption? How are my notes secured?

samiur120411• 6 years ago

Nope, we haven't. Part of that is we are trying to help you save content from many places and be able to provide great search for you as well, which means we need to be able to index the content server side. We do encrypt the content server side, making the content inaccessible to anyone at Journal without explicitly accessing the decryption keys, for which we have an audit trail. Also makes it harder for someone to access your content if for some reason we got hacked.

nwienert3• 6 years ago

You don’t need to make it server side, but it certainly is easier. But client side is totally doable. You can compress word embeddings and search them with great accuracy.

tinodotim2• 6 years ago

Why do you ask for my mail during sign-up and then continue to only offer oauth with google or apple.

HugeAcumen2• 6 years ago

I'd really like this answered as well. I'd like to try this, but that prompt has put me off.

HugeAcumen2• 6 years ago

... [crickets]

Welp, gonna delete your app now. Shame I didn't get to try it.

themacguffinman• 6 years ago

A password signup option would be appreciated. While the social logins are convenient and I often use them, I prefer to use passwords for services that I'd also like to use at work because I intentionally avoid signing into my personal Google account on my work computer. A username/password login option provides a nice way to share a service without spilling my personal Google account onto work equipment.

naderkhalil• 6 years ago

This is really cool. I like the idea of "spaces" per project. Any thoughts on how to integrate hand written/ios pen written notes into the workflow?

hereme888• 6 years ago

I downloaded and installed, but then I saw it forces me to sign up using gmail or apple only. This led me to start reading the privacy policy... you basically collect every webpage I visit, ip, how many times/time of day, etc... and sell it to advertisers.

I don't like advertisers manipulating me through their psychological research into my habits. It's unethical.

If this software were offered in a way that respected my privacy, I would honestly try it. But for this reason I tend to stick to open source software. It may be much less functional and require more manual work, but it gives me peace of mind.

Wish you the best... just not my cup of tea.

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