Corsair Gaming S-1

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by kressaty • 6 years ago

97 101 6 years ago

As I type this on one of my two corsair keyboards-- that I love-- I am thinking I will check out this S1!

I have a Corsair mouse pad that covers most of my desk. In part because the mouse pad is huge and in part because my desk is small. The mouse that sits on top of it is Corsair too. I like this mouse pad and the mouse a lot, and like you, the quality of those things that I own are the reason I clicked on this post.

As for keyboard, I use a different brand (all black programmable mechanical keyboard ErgoDox EZ Shine with no printed key caps, with my own Dvorak layout here: https://github.com/ctsrc/ergodox-ez-shine-dvorak).

I am fairly certain that the PSU in my desktop computer is Corsair as well, but I’m not about to open the case and see just for a comment on HN :p

compscistd• 6 years ago

Look up desk pads, I have one that covers the majority of my 5’x30” desk!

My Corsair PSU is an old 750W and they were synonymous with accessible modular power supplies for a while. Made them last longer by design when that wasn’t a given design choice. All in one heatsink units are more popular now, but they used to be the only option in that category too.

philliphaydon• 6 years ago

After having 3 razor keyboards arrive with problems, and 2 warranty claims to finally get one that actually worked, while waiting for the 2nd replacement I bought a corsair K70. Oh it's so much better than the razor I had.

I swapped the keycaps on the razor to zhuyin and gave it to my wife. Much prefer this corsair!

fireattack2• 6 years ago

Isn't their company name "CORSAIR COMPONENTS, INC."?

[1] https://www.corsair.com/us/en/about

pvg2• 6 years ago

It's discussed in the document starting at page 10 under 'The Reorganization and the Acquisition Transaction'.

fireattack2• 6 years ago

If I understand it right, "CORSAIR COMPONENTS, INC." no longer existed since 2017?

Weird they haven't updated their website then.

nemothekid• 6 years ago

40% of the revenue is from selling RAM? I assume they aren't fabbing their own chips, so are they just reselling Samsung/Hynix memory?

morelikeborelax3• 6 years ago

Micron, Samsung, Hynix like most others. They aren't reselling ram, just using chips from the only companies that make them, but they pick certain bins and do their own QC and direct support etc.

toast0• 6 years ago

Someone has to put the chips together into a module and flash the profile information. And add RGB and heatsinks.

nrp• 6 years ago

From the S-1: "We use DRAM ICs produced by Samsung, Micron and Hynix in our DRAM modules. We purchase those DRAM ICs, pursuant to purchase orders and not long-term supply contracts, largely from third-party distributors and, to a lesser extent, directly from those manufacturers."

Edit: And "We maintain limited manufacturing facilities that only produce DRAM modules, custom built PCs, custom cooling and performance controllers, and as a result, we depend entirely upon third parties to manufacture and supply the gear we sell and the components used in our gear such as gaming peripherals and gaming components." So they do actually manufacture the modules in-house.

VectorLock• 6 years ago

So they do actually manufacture the modules in-house.

Someone has to put the RGB on.

blt• 6 years ago

So they don't make their own power supplies? Who is making them? Is there a better power supply brand that manufactures their own?

wmf2• 6 years ago

Besides Crucial/Micron, it seems like consumers can't buy DIMMs from Samsung or Hynix; you have to get them from some gamer brand. And clearly a lot of people are buying from brands that they recognize.

jeffbee• 6 years ago

What makes you say this? I always buy Samsung DIMMs. They are always in stock at Newegg and on the shelf at Central Computer (SF Bay Area brick and mortar computer store).

morelikeborelax3• 6 years ago

You can buy DIMMs from all three just rare to see in most retail channels for consumer stuff. Obviously Micron have crucial, but you see Micron non-server DIMMs in OEM systems.

fomine3• 6 years ago

memory.net has great lineups and cheap for Samsung memory.

formerly_proven2• 6 years ago

DRAM makers sell their chips only in JEDEC specifications, everything faster than that (3200+) needs to be binned by the module maker. For example, 3600CL16 is the standard choice for AMD systems, 3200CL14 is also very common and has much more aggressive timings than JEDEC.

m3kw9• 6 years ago

Well at least they are making a profit

xwdv• 6 years ago

Kind of a boring IPO. Just taking advantage of high valuations right now.

gouggoug4• 6 years ago

Sort-of-ish related:

A few years back they started making gaming PCs.

I was looking for something slick, discreet, but still fairly powerful.

I bought a Corsair One, and I've been super happy since then. It's exactly what I wanted and I haven't had any issues with it.

So if you were looking at their gaming PCs, you now know 1 random HN reader is super satisfied and recommends them.

cgriswald• 6 years ago

Have you ever built one? I'm curious how they compare to something I might build myself.

They are my go-to for power supplies and memory, and of my three main keyboards and mice, two sets are Corsair (K95 RGB Platinum and Scimitar Pro) used on Linux systems with ckb-next; one is Razer (Blackwidow Chroma v1 and Ouroboros) with their in-house software on Windows for a gaming rig. I much prefer the Corsair stuff.

gouggoug4• 6 years ago

I never built my own gaming PC.

Teenager me had the knowledge and patience to build one and would have loved too, but didn't have the money at the time.

Adult me doesn't have the patience, nor the knowledge anymore, but has the money.

I'm also less interested in those huge, full of fancy glowing RGB lights, gaming rigs and more interested in something small, silent and discreet.

So, in so many words, I can't compare, but I'm fairly certain it would take me more time than is worth trying to come up and build a rig as slick as the Corsair One.

dogma11384• 6 years ago

The One is actually a pretty good deal if you want something of that form factor that isn’t a laptop in a box.

It’s completely water cooled and the majority of the parts are reusable/pc compatible.

Building something of that small factor will cost you a lot in exotic and custom parts.

For what it is the markup isn’t actually terrible it’s pretty cheap considering it costs about as much or even less than some standard tower gaming PCs from big brands and it comes with better hardware.

You can build a mini-ITX for cheaper but nothing of that size that and an SFF build will cost you more.

Something1234• 6 years ago

Guess what building a pc is not worth it. It's not worth it in frustration or anything else. It's better to buy a commercial business grade desktop with a support contract. They always have some kind of weird power issue or something. However, I might just be butthurt about my desktop that randomly reboots and was built by a friend, and I can't figure out what is wrong with it.

tambeb• 6 years ago

I'm not a gamer and honestly couldn't even tell you the last time I played a game, but I do build my own PCs and build them basically as maxed out overclocked gamer rigs because I just like having the raw power.

For what it's worth I've always preferred using stuff from Corsair. Their quality is top notch. Right now my PC's case, RAM, most fans, power supply, and water cooling are from them. I give my computers, servers, etc., pseudo code names for the LAN and my current PC is actually 'CORSAIR'.

shasts• 6 years ago

Can Corsair One run Linux? I have heard that water cooling software for example does not have Linux support.

gouggoug4• 6 years ago

I managed to install Ubuntu without trouble, but I've seen complains online about subpar Linux support.

wheybags• 6 years ago

I use a corsair aio in a custom build. It's fine. It's exactly the same as using an aio on windows without installing icue (their device management software, which is pretty shit). You can't set custom fan / pump speed curves, but the defaults are fine. I'm cooling a 3950x and I've had no issues with temperature. You also can't adjust the LEDs but whatever.

numpad02• 6 years ago

That usually means LED control.

Water cooling itself has nothing to control, but there’s just the pump to be run at full speed at all time, and fans to cool radiators like you normally do with air coolers.

joshgachnang• 6 years ago

Is it weird that 3 tech companies (Palantir, Corsair, AirBnB) are IPOing or starting the process to IPO at the same time?

nscalf• 6 years ago

I imagine a lot of people are expecting the economy to go through a prolonged, rough recovery from the beating that has been most of 2020. The Trump administration has done just about everything possible to kick the can down the road. Might as well IPO now while you can take advantage of a strong stock market, before reality sets in.

morelikeborelax3• 6 years ago

Not at all. Look at last summer's IPOs.

https://news.crunchbase.com/news/heres-who-has-gone-public-i...

dehrmann• 6 years ago

Some people buy into the idea of "the IPO window," a time when it's seen as safe to go public. Even people who don't buy into it can't deny that no one wanted to touch an IPO in March and April, so there's some pent-up demand.

These three companies are also all very different as businesses. Their biggest commonalities are the people they hire and where they're located. After that, they look pretty different.

genocidicbunny4• 6 years ago

Are they really all that related?

The IPO process takes a while, so is it really that surprising that a bunch of companies might have overlapping periods of IPO activity?

If a bunch of companies in the same sector, that compete with each other, went to IPO around the same time, that might be a _little_ weird, but this is largely just a coincidence. AirBnB has been anticipated for a while, Palantir needs the cash, and Corsair, well, I dunno what's really up there, but they're gonna try to IPO too. Either way, it mainly seems like a coincidence for these three.

xal• 6 years ago

46m for elgato seems like a steal now.

fletchowns• 6 years ago

Ticker symbol should be RGB! Apparently NASDAQ ticker symbols are typically 4 letters though.

scrollaway• 6 years ago

Shoulda gone for RGBA.

Or CMYK ;)

jmz7v• 6 years ago

I bought my first mech keyboard and "high-end" mouse from Corsair almost 3 years ago. I happily own a couple of Elgato products, more Corsair keyboards. I can say I'm rooting for them.

It's been amazing to see Corsair grow and provide great hardware, although not to my current taste. I can see the value they provide with the current massive force that online gaming and streaming has. I hope they'll continue to build great products for the foreseeable future.

hellopat• 6 years ago

I just wish they'd use better switches in their mice. I'm on my second one, and they suffer from a widespread double click issue. It's an excellent gaming mouse otherwise.

s9w• 6 years ago

Corsair, with one of the most iconic logo of any hardware company. Which they wanted to change to a super generic "tramp-stamp" logo a couple of years back - but actually backtracked after community revolt.

https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-respond-to-community-feedbac...

niffydroid• 6 years ago

I like the current logo, it's almost like a classic computer peripherals logo from the 80s. The tramp stamp is tacky and cheap, I'd expect the items to last less than a year

appleflaxen• 6 years ago

That is hilarious. I never saw this when it happened, but the "tramp stamp" description is just unbelievably apt.

quantummkv• 6 years ago

Corsair has certainly come a long way from their sleek gamer aesthetic Dominator ram modules that first introduced me to the brand. Now just about every gaming peripheral and a lot of my system components (everything apart for CPU, GPU and motherboard) are from Corsair.

Unlike many other brands, their have managed to retain their quality over time. Kudos to them.

ddlutz• 6 years ago

I must be the odd one out heree. Lot of people saying good things about their hardware. I've had problems with two of their keyboards, two of their mice, and 2 of their headsets. I've stopped going with them. Have had better luck with Logitech, at least in the mouse department no issue. Have had some issues with headset though.

wp381640• 6 years ago

This is their second (or third?) attempt to go public. The S1 from 2012:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1486183/000119312512...

ortekk• 6 years ago

Their keyboards, while pretty, are made of cheapest ABS plastic. One of my keys became stuck just 2 months after the purchase, because of the crack on the keycap fitting. Corsair also refused to replace it.

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