Show HN: My awful Kickstarter campaign. Good idea, terrible presentation.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1141308765/jsonloops-open-source-real-time-multiuser-audio-se

by reddittor • 15 years ago

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mickeyben• 15 years ago

It's too much focused on the technical side, I'd present it as a multiuser audio sequencer, with an awesome demo and what would you do with the cash. Technical details are available on Github for people interested in.

edit: By the way, great project !

cloudwalking• 15 years ago

Yeah, try being less technical and more "look at this cool thing!"

Also, $20k seems like a lot.

reddittor4• 15 years ago

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume it will take at least 1,000 development hours to get JSONloops to v1.0.0.

1000 hours / $20,000 = $20.00 per hour for developers on average

Is that too much to ask for?

jvdh2• 15 years ago

Uh, first of all, get rid of the glasses and the dude on the left sitting with his mouse open. Then, focus on the demo.

One of the best things I learned from Presenting to Win is that one of the first things you have to do in a product pitch is show what problem you are solving for the audience. This is the best way to capture their attention, and will get them interested in what you are trying to do and how you are going to do it.

reddittor4• 15 years ago

By "dude on the left", did you mean https://github.com/hij1nx or https://github.com/tmpvar?

I'm not keen on getting rid of either of them. :-(

coob• 15 years ago

http://i.imgur.com/20AXU.png <- this guy

jvdh2• 15 years ago

You don't have to get rid of them, make them participate more actively in the movie and or demo.

Sitting there while you're doing all the talking makes you look like bad because you don't seem to want to do it alone, and makes them look bad, because they don't do any talking.

mariuskempe• 15 years ago

If you're going to do it anyway, consider using Flattr. I'd pay you.

Edit: and if you do, twitter me at @mariuskempe and I'll start donating.

hij1nx• 15 years ago

seems like you are asking to get dissed.

jasonkester• 15 years ago

"The best thing about this project is that we're not trying to retain ownership of it"

What? That's like a tiny little asterisk point down at the bottom of your feature list. The best thing about your project should be that it's useful for doing X.

I never got as far as finding out what X actually was, and why this was going to be better than the existing tools out there.

But I did learn what file format you save projects in. Yikes. Developers, stop talking about development stuff. Nobody cares about the technical details. Nobody cares about Open Source. Talk about your product.

reddittor4• 15 years ago

At the behest of the development team I've taken down the old video.

I'll try and take your advice and revamp the campaign.

Jun8• 15 years ago

Also, why have a $1 donation, that makes you look desperate! Read the post on the front page of HN titled "We don't get out of bed for $10K".

sp332• 15 years ago

This great (long) article was posted a while back, about how to get what you want out of Kickstarter. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1552952 Under the heading "Defining the Pledge Tiers" is the result of an informal survey showing how easy it is to get money at various levels.

knowzie• 15 years ago

My last comment wasn't constructive, so I deleted it.

You should put the code up online so people can play with the sequencer. Let people save out the tracks..

Maybe even make it into a game of some sort.

This reminds me of Mario Paint. I think a lot of people would like it if it were online & playable.

reddittor4• 15 years ago

The code is online, at github...http://github.com/marak/JSONloops

An online demo where people can play with the software without having to install Node.js is planned, but there are several issues which need to be addressed first.

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