Ask HN: I cannot stop pursuing ideas and it’s ruining my life

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by idea_heroin • 7 years ago

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Some ideas can be so strong, so compelling, that you want to neglect everything to realize them even if you know that doing so will further isolate you socially and provide no financial upside. I feel there are only so many years living this lifestyle until I have passed the point of no return.

Have any of you dealt with similar themes? How do you moderate yourself?

stacktravel• 7 years ago

Warren Buffet's theory.

Write down the top 25 ideas you have.

Now choose the top 5, most important ones. The absolute best.

Now cross out the other 20. They're distracting you from the ones you should be focusing on.

rcavezza• 7 years ago

I love the advice and idea, but this reminded me of an excerpt from The Third Door by Alex Banayan.

“Mr. Buffett, I’ve heard that one of your ways of focusing your energy is that you write down the 25 things you want to achieve, choose the top five and then avoid the bottom 20. I’m really curious how you came up with this and what other methods you use for prioritizing your desires?”

Buffett chuckled, responding, “Well, I’m actually more curious about how you came up with it.” The audience erupted in laughter.

Buffett proceeded to explain that both he and Munger live very simple lives, and are not disciplined enough to approach decision-making in that way. “I can’t recall making a list in my life,” said Buffett.

rogerkirkness• 7 years ago

I think at a certain point you can only really act on <10 ideas and see them through in your entire lifetime. I would probably only give credence to ones that you think you'll realistically spend 10 years on. Even if you don't end up doing so, it's a pretty strong filter to get rid of junk.

quaquaqua1• 7 years ago

Find a job that pays you an acceptable wage and then you can work on your ideas exactly as you see fit.

I was doomed to a similar fate. I simply do not have the focus and tenacity required to be a businessman, so I took the easier route of selling my labor and my free time is reserved for my hobbies and passion projects.

Good luck!

ksaj2• 7 years ago

If you're looking for a word to describe this frame of mind, you seem to be describing hyperfocus. People with ADHD deal with it pretty much constantly, but there are many other conditions with this exact symptom. OCD, which only superficially looks like the polar opposite of ADHD, is a major one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperfocus

Yes, the wiki says OCD is not hyperfocus. But down to the grit, ADHD and OCD are differing responses to focusing on the order of far too many things, at the expense of everything else. Just wanted to add that in here because although they sound exclusive when worded a certain way, they aren't.

agota• 7 years ago

What he's describing doesn't sound like a symptom of OCD at all.

Source: I have a diagnosed OCD so quite familiar with the common symptoms.

tcbasche• 7 years ago

One of my pet hates is the old "I'm so OCD, I just _have_ to have a clean desk"

LeonB• 7 years ago

Dani Donovan’s ADHD cartoons are a great read: https://twitter.com/danidonovan/status/1100414551932030984?s...

Also see “the sushi train metaphor” from Dr Russ Harris, a psychologist specialising in ACT https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzUoXJVI0wo

gitgud• 7 years ago

idea_heroin... love the name.

I'll try and approach this objectively (since I also start tonnes of projects with no financial upside).

Consider that there are millions of ideas out there and most will never ever be realised. You CANNOT DO THEM ALL... so you will need to prioritise what ideas are worth working on. The criteria you choose is up to you; financial gain, social gain... just thinking about this is a good way to moderate yourself.

There are a finite number of keystrokes left in your hands before you die. - [1] Scott Hanselman

[1] https://www.hanselman.com/blog/DoTheyDeserveTheGiftOfYourKey...

inwestor91• 7 years ago

hallo

ginger_beer_m• 7 years ago

I keep this in mind:

'Starting an idea is easy. What matters is finishing it.'

rl32• 7 years ago

I'm in a similar boat. My whole life I've been an idea factory. The trade-off for me has been that summoning the focus required to implement anything myself is like pulling teeth, let alone choosing which idea to implement in the first place. Despite this I'm just as capable as any other developer, but like you getting my priorities in order has proven difficult.

In fact, I've spent the past six years of my life working towards an idea that's largely consumed me. It started small and expanded in scope to something best described as a blueprint for a future FAANG-scale company. Yet I'm as far away from realizing the idea as ever, and I've paid an enormous social and financial price for allocating so much time in pursuit of it.

Pursuing such things is best done with solid financial, emotional and social footing. I had very little of those when I started, and I basically buckled under the weight of them by the end. It's like taking a road trip, if your emotional gas tank is half empty when you start, you're going to be pushing your car across the desert in the end.

The upshot is I've now found an overriding purpose to my life, but ironically that purpose is now requiring me to think more instrumentally than ever.

That means getting a job or otherwise making money, giving my love life more attention, whatever I can do to make myself happy and financially stable. After so many years I've come to realize that you can't do great work if you ain't happy. Likewise being crushed under financial pressure. In practice, the mythology of a lone badass being driven by sheer will only goes so far.

I feel there are only so many years living this lifestyle until I have passed the point of no return.

I can't speak to your situation, but it sounds like you may need to pull the same eject handle I did. The thing about ejecting is it allows you to avoid crashing and burning, only to fly another day.

There's no shame in it, and it doesn't mean you failed. On the contrary it's only the beginning. It took me forever to realize this.

Good luck.

burntoutfire• 7 years ago

After so many years I've come to realize that you can't do great work if you ain't happy.

I don't think that's true. Many of the greatest creators were miserable through most of their life.

rl32• 7 years ago

Good point. Some of my best work has been while miserable, though I wouldn't call it sustainable. It ultimately depends on the person.

planert41• 7 years ago

Getting a low stress job as a hedge and spending the rest of my free time aggressively pursuing my ideas.

lieux• 7 years ago

good

BGthaOG• 7 years ago

Let me know what you think of this:

Use some resources from those with expertise to evaluate your idea. Hopefully it helps interact with your ideas really thoroughly and brings you peace in filtering out ideas (and identifying the really good ones):

Harvard Innovations Lab: Ideation framework with Josh Wexler (2013) https://youtu.be/0zCtHDPRlog Follow along with your own idea in mind instead of the example given.

Start up school: How to Evaluate Ideas , pt. 1(2019) https://www.startupschool.org/videos/62

semenka• 7 years ago

I'm trying to evaluate the potential of each idea and really commit to the most promising one for a sometime, then iterate :)

BlueSlide• 7 years ago

Aside from the fact all of my side projects are currently abandoned (in search of wellness).

I use Trello, and have found organising ideas by value and difficulty has eased the burden of having 100+ side projects.

So.. I have multiple columns identifying which projects I will work on: "backlog", "will do", "won't do", "in progress", and "finished".

The "tickets" are also colour coded by difficulty: green - easy, orange - few days/week, red - few weeks/months.

Depending on how much time I think I will have free in the next few weeks, I pick a difficulty, and will only work on ONE project at a time (This is the only rule that stops me picking things up then abandoning it half way through).

I haven't been doing red projects in the past few months as they require more energy than I currently have, the green ones are the most fun, usually done in a night or a weekend, then I will not start another project until the next week to give myself a rest.

probinso• 7 years ago

Reframe what you consider a project. Learning to do trades is a project. Picking up hobbies is a project. Volunteering is a project. Diversify your projects

codeful• 7 years ago

it may be hypomania. Please seek professional help.

yesenadam• 7 years ago

It depends which ideas. Gandhi, and Hitler, might've felt the same thing. Are the 'ideas' making the world a better place, or not? Are they attached to some worthwhile goal? A goal needn't be attainable to be worthwhile; the greatest ones aren't. (I wonder why you didn't mention actually what they are, at all.)

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