Introducing Apache Wave

http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-apache-wave.html

by andre3k1 • 16 years ago

218 24 16 years ago

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This is great news. Wave has loads of potential, it just needs someone to take it by the hand and show it some UX love.

catshirt• 16 years ago

absolutely. i realize now that this mentality is likely the cause behind wave's quick downfall, but it wasn't only until after wave was pulled that i began to think "wish I had a wave for this".

xtacy2• 16 years ago

I am not able to find it; Google announced that they would have an exporter for the data that's presently locked-into Wave. Has there been any news about it?

dtwwtd2• 16 years ago

It's built into the current web interface.

Click the box with three dots at the top right of a wave and then choose export.

xtacy2• 16 years ago

Thanks!

So I have to manually click every single wave that I've created and do it. :-/ Is there an exporter that's available?

EDIT: it looks like it allows one to export waves in batches of 10.

huherto• 16 years ago

Are they opening just the protocol software? Or also the UI?

pak• 16 years ago

It seems they are also open-sourcing a web client, maybe not exactly the same UI as the official client, but I can't see why they would go to the trouble of changing it. Kudos to them for calling it "Wave in a Box", J Tim would be pleased.

http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-n...

sudont2• 16 years ago

There was a CLI proof-of-concept app, but nothing else.

Probably should crack open Photoshop and do a couple of studies to get a discussion on a native client going...

dtwwtd2• 16 years ago

I'm pleased that Wave will be in such able hands. It really shows that Google does care about open source when they take this much trouble to follow through on their promises.

Andrenid3• 16 years ago

As someone who used Wave intensely (all day, nearly every day) from the day I got my invite, until the day they announced it was going to die, I couldn't be happier about this.

Wave was invaluable to my daily business processes, working with people on projects that move way too fast to set up up a more structured/"proper" collaboration environment. It had pretty much completely replaced email for me at one point between me, my associates and my friends.

Can't wait to see it get a second life, and hopefully i'll be using it a lot more in the future now too. I still stand by this having potential to really change how we communicate with people.

xpaulbettsx• 16 years ago

Totally agreed, I use it every day as well, and the group of folks I use it with and I were really unhappy it was being shut down

sudont2• 16 years ago

I was always afraid that it would remain mostly google-centric and without other servers or desktop clients. Now Wave really has a good chance for adoption anywhere, and a mass of individual servers will really ensure that the cross-server protocols aren’t neglected.

Now, just for Apache’s version to get really popular, and Google to introduce the leading web-based wave service...

nodata2• 16 years ago

I think for most people the stumbling block was "Here it is, now use it." Use it for what? What are some real world examples? How is this different?

I think more "this is exactly how I use Wave" demos - from people who use it, like yourself - would really help it along.

Andrenid3• 16 years ago

I spent a lot of my time on Wave spreading the word to colleagues and friends, and had a lot of them using it daily as well. I even had my work (large government agency) considering a dedicated Wave server after telling them it will be possible one day, and showing them how it worked (they were VERY impressed).

I think Google really needed to give it more time, and at least give it SOME time while open to everyone to try. Giving it to select people, who can send invites but then wait days for them to be activated, then shutting it down due to it "not being used enough", was ridiculous.

As for the "Use it for what?" thing, I kept hearing that a lot, but every single person I showed it to, from other IT workers to my technically illiterate brother, all got hooked once they started using it to organise their lives.

hootx• 16 years ago

I'm really quite curious why Google is still investing time into wave. It seems to me that either it is a worthy endeavor (which I think it is), or it isn't (ie, it should be scraped). But I don't understand scraping it and then revitalizing it soon after. Couldn't they have done the work the Apache Foundation will do faster in-house?

biot• 16 years ago

Just because Google doesn't want to take care of its baby doesn't mean that it's a bad thing that it takes a bit of time to find a new home for it.

JonnieCache• 16 years ago

How can you "scrap" code? They certainly haven't deleted it, and just because they have stopped active development doesn't prevent them handing it all off to the Apache crew.

acgourley• 16 years ago

So who is starting a wave hosting business?

jamii• 16 years ago

Process One (developers of ejabberd) are working on an independent implementation:

http://www.process-one.net/en/blogs/article/processone_wave_...

http://www.process-one.net/en/blogs/article/proof_of_concept...

I wouldnt be surprised if they eventually offered corporate hosting.

scrrr• 16 years ago

I currently have a use case for wave and would like to use it. Would you recommend against it? What's the current status. When will it go offline?

te_chris• 16 years ago

I used wave a little, but didn't really have any use for it. I always recognised the huge potential of the protocol and service nature of it, however. I'm very glad to see this happening.

mattezell• 16 years ago

I know that our team was happy to learn about this. Whether it will get used or not is yet to be seen. I did take a few minutes to get it compiled and running locally last night and have to say that getting basic* Wave functionality was easy on Ubuntu 10.10.

*UI and feature set is pretty light in comparison to the current state of Wave(+UI)

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