Junior Developer Koans

Something like 2-3 years ago I've read similar thing with master foo but about git. Does anyone happen to know where I can find it? I've searched for it but failed to find :(

woodrowbarlow• 7 years ago

is this it? http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/04/git-koans/

_pmf_• 7 years ago

“Generate a react app without scaffolding” instructed the Master.
The student could not.

He could, how ever, BCC his team lead's boss that he's being put on useless tasks that only serve to give the team lead a sense of superiority.

dijit• 7 years ago

Educating people is showing “superiority” now?

Frankly I welcome someone who wants to teach me something I don’t know. As long as they’re not obnoxious (which is, thankfully, rare)

BossingAround4• 7 years ago

Educating people is awesome, amazing, and should be applauded.

It must, however, come from the side of the mentee, not the mentor. If you _want_ to teach someone something, that will always come off bad, from my experience. As a junior dev, I used to hate this slightly senior dev (same position, but has been with the company a year longer) trying to teach me stuff, and saying things like "yea, do this, at least you'll learn how to do it", assigning me useless little things that I did not need in my daily work. In the end, I had to tell him that he's in no position to assign me anything, and I had to talk to my manager about this colleague thinking he can assign me things (practically, I said 'this has to end or I'm out). Things got significantly better after that.

pdpi2• 7 years ago

Mentor/student is not the same dynamic as lead/junior.

As both lead and mentor simultaneously to a junior developer, the suggestions I give him are very _very_ different depending on which role I'm playing at the time, and I make it abundantly clear which role is speaking at any given point in time.

This is precisely the sort of suggestion many juniors need to hear from their mentors (because there is real value in understanding the difference between deep and shallow knowledge, and the role of tooling), but is of course a terrible task for a lead to give a junior (because it's a pointless waste of time as part of a production project)

BossingAround4• 7 years ago

For me, personally, of course I expected different treatment and different tasks when I was a junior. However, if I were given a task just for the sake of having a task (i.e. "create X, then feel free to delete it"), that would be hugehly demoralising (as in, "you don't trust me to do even a basic useful thing? We have to start at a basic useless thing?")

I don't know what OP meant, but I assume that's what he was driving at.

jyriand• 7 years ago

There are teams, that don't need to use scaffolding provided by "create-react-app". Maybe they just need a small react powered widget on their site, it would be silly to scaffold whole separate project just for that widget. Also, if you are using React as your primary tool, you should actually know, how to set it up manually.

llamataboot• 7 years ago

The student gazed at the giant monolith and was intimidated by its size.

"Break it up" the teacher instructed.

And so the student broke the monolith into many pieces, and then became confused by how all the pieces fit together.

"Put it back together" the teacher instructed.

And so the student rebuilt the monolith, fat controllers and all, but she was not scared, neither of the many pieces, nor the size.

bigbadgoose• 7 years ago

sigh … the original AI koans never seem to get exposure. Lisp based, just deeper. Closer to the metal.

http://catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html

brootstrap• 7 years ago

this is great, thanks for sharing. It's funny hearing the stories of when these legends were just research geeks in college labs.

stoksc• 7 years ago

Every koan post I’ve seen has had these in the comments.

mooreds• 7 years ago

I only wish there were more. I have been thinking a lot about junior developers and how to meet them where they are. Once you've been around the block a few times it is hard to put yourself in that mindset, but in order to help them be effective and efficient (and to keep them around) it seems like you have to.

duxup• 7 years ago

As a jr. dev who recently changed careers from something else technical to web development I have a bit of a concern about how the attributes of a jr. dev in web development are often portrayed as inherently negative. I feel like I see this far more in the development space compared to my past career (networking). This is just my impression, i'm a n00b, so I'm not at all sure how widespread it is.

In the networking land if I saw someone's messed up VLAN config I'd sit down with them "Hey man I see what I think you wanted to do, let's talk about what we want to do here and some other ways to get you what you wanted here."

In the dev world (particularly online) I often see citations about something silly jr. dev does as just being "bad", but those things are what people do... while they're learning to do it better. So some guy fires up create react app to quickly put together an app, maybe he didn't have to, maybe it was somewhat less efficient to use CRA, but in doing so he learns a ton about react outside of the scaffolding and etc. Being a not so great dev is also what you do while learning to be better.

I'm not at all sure if the purpose of these Koans here so maybe I'm off topic, but that's just an observation of mine.

theyoungwolf• 7 years ago

I would assume its the rise of the 8-12 week bootcamps that essentially mock all those who have spent so much more time in the field.

statictype2• 7 years ago

The young disciple entered the temple and prostrated 3 times before the master and asked - "I wish to know the way of Microservices. I wish to glean insight on how to build them as it will let us scale and build rapidly".

The master jumped off his chair and landed head-first on the floor.

"What happened!" ask the disciple.

"I'm learning how to sky dive" replied the master.

Upon hearing this, the disciple was enlightened.

ravedave5• 7 years ago

This is so dang funny. I don't even get what the message is supposed to be exactly but I just about fell out of my chair laughing.

plausibilities2• 7 years ago

Message:

You/we lack the proper (production runtime) environment conducive to practicing and learning this particular technique.

sevensor• 7 years ago

Shouldn't a koan embody a paradox? These are more wry observations than koans.

Junior Developer Koans

Related Stories