Is Flickr Worth $4 Billion?

http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/08/is-flickr-worth-4-billion/

by buckpost • 18 years ago

13 13 18 years ago

Nope.

hooande• 18 years ago

This article should have been titled "If we assume a 25X sale or Flickr selling every ad unit At $5 CPM then this post isn't linkbait"

_g8fe• 18 years ago

Maybe

Harkins• 18 years ago

Flickr is worth 4 billion because he guessed at its freemium conversion rate and the introduction of advertising, then ran it through a multiplier chosen by a guy banned for life by the SEC? At the least, this is unpersuasive.

damon• 18 years ago

Is it April 1st?

narendra• 18 years ago

There are several factual inaccuracies in his post and unreasonable assumptions.

1) I believe that Flickr sold for $17 + a small earn out. The only authentic data on this is a post by Rafat on paidcontent.org.

2) You can't get at potential freemium subscribers by total uniques! Most Flickr viewers are not Flickr members! You need the actual uploader count and then at the very very best 1% might pay.

3) The ecommerce number is probably significantly off (2-3x) because Flickr is all about online sharing.

4) Flickr is huge but unfortunately is losing community aspects to other channels now like Facebook and twitter.

5) For another comparable, Webshots sold late last year for $45M and was probably 3x revenue.

Ultimately, Flickr has a pristine brand, leads the photo sharing category, so I'd guess it deserves a premium above photobucket so if Yahoo decided to sell then maybe $300-350M.

The bottom line is that there will never be big money in photos.

rp• 18 years ago

The one thing that stands out in this analysis is the author's almost casual statement that Flicker users regard "Flickr as their property and are resistant to change of any kind." Given the recent flap over adding video to the site, which is an individual user's choice, what would kind of noise would people make if ads started popping up on Flickr even if people could opt-out? The issue of how user's seemingly arbitrary whims may obstruct monetization of community sites seems to begging for further analysis.

diego• 18 years ago

I find it interesting that some people still pay attention to what Henry Blodget has to say with regard to valuations. The "25X revenue" as a generic formula is nonsense, not even worth debating. This type of thinking is what inflated the first dotcom bubble.

redorb• 18 years ago

Yahoo owning Flickr allows them to dominate the photo sharing market ... just as google owning YouTube..

- owning something that has a moat (its user base) is definitely worth a lot, I put Flickr at 1.6bn

iseff• 18 years ago

Am I the only one who is amazed that Compete has Flickr receiving same amount of unique visitors per month as Facebook!?

Every single one of my friends uses Facebook, yet I'm one of the few who use (and even know of) Flickr.

flupkear• 18 years ago

I think it don't worth $4 million, this is ridiculous

josefresco• 18 years ago

I read a while back that Flickr's conversion rate for the "pro" accounts was dismal, as in less than 1%. Sorry no linky to back that memory up but there's no way it's even close to 10%.

TrevorJ• 18 years ago

It is is somebody writes "four billion" on a check and hands it to them. Heck, money's not worth anything unless we agree it is anyway.

Is Flickr Worth $4 Billion?

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