George Holtz codes 11 hours straight live stream [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hlb8YX2-W8

by rick22 • 8 years ago

42 27 8 years ago

_iyig• 8 years ago

Typo in title. “Holtz” should be “Hotz”

stefan_• 8 years ago

I'm concerned he got to about hour 10 until considering datasets (=video) with validated camera calibration information.

I think the video ended before he applied any of it, though..

kopo• 8 years ago

This is really cool. Maybe it's my age but I am slightly out of the loop when it comes to dev's livestreaming. Didn't realize it was a thing.

For some reason, it's reminding me of SOLE (self organized learning environment) classrooms being tried out in the UK. Put a BIG problem on the board. Get a couple kids to sit in front of a SINGLE large screen and work it out. Provide internet access. And the teacher just hangs in the background not teaching, but observing/guiding/keeping things on track. This is taking it to another level with the number of people watching/learning/contributing etc.

lostmsu3• 8 years ago

Sorry to be holy-wary, but that was outrageous: just watched random pieces of that video until found one where he actually codes, basically vim Python editing.

So I opened somewhere around this moment: https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8?t=17039

And, first, he copy-pastes some code, and then spends about a minute figuring if he got tabs converted to spaces, including googling a vim command.

Then he proceeds to make a loop over some collection next to the loop over an adjacent collection. And he makes that stupid mistake of renaming a variable of the loop, but no renaming in the body.

Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim.

module0000• 8 years ago

> Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim.

I'm a zealot, and it's a waste of my time to try and convince someone to use vim. If someone is trying to sell you on using vim, remind them of the code they should be writing instead of flapping their lips at you. The "you gotta use vim!" folks are usually half-adept hacks. They don't quite understand it as fully as they feel they should, so instead they try to get good vibes by convincing you to make the same decisions they did.

disclaimer: 20-year vi/vim user - could care less whether anyone else uses it or not.

lostmsu3• 8 years ago

You know, someone's wrong on the Internet :-D

Also, George Hotz is a famous hacker, maybe not Carmack or Linus, but definitely somewhere on that scale. Even that video shows an interesting work.

Also, I used `zealot` in the sense of advertisement, not normal passion.

hackermailman• 8 years ago

cmu pushes vim in most of their courses, all the TAs use it too that's why you aren't seeing glorious emacs hacking on cruise control by GeoHot

jstewartmobile• 8 years ago

Geohot is normally an emacs user?

koonsolo• 8 years ago

The best article on VIM is "Why, oh WHY, do those #?@! nutheads use vi?" http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html

I myself use vi modes inside IDE's, and can't be happier.

rick223• 8 years ago

You missed the real point. Its not how he uses vim. It's a rare chance to experience how a 1000x programmer works. Its a gift to see a very bright, proven programmer code. To look at how an accomplished knowledgeable coder thinks, google's with the kind of keyword, what websites he vists, the songs he plays, even the kind of drinks, food e.t.c(for 11 hours straight some drinks might be suited best). If you work for a big tech company( and in the right team) you might get to see over the shoulders of 1000x devs. But for the rest of us this is the closest to looking over the shoulder of 1000x dev at work.

davidmr• 8 years ago

I've read this comment 10 times and I still can't tell if it's satire or not. Well done, either way.

whatshisface• 8 years ago

Does anyone know who this guy is, what he was doing, and why he was livestreaming it?

arthurcolle2• 8 years ago

Based on the video playing on his screen it looks like he is working on parts of the autonomous driving system, most likely related to the startup that he was Head of Research for, called comma.ai

IIRC, he + the CEO raised a bunch of money to work on his own self-driving car designs, which culminated in a prototype that wasn't as feature-rich as some of the better capitalized players, which had been demoed a few years back in limited capacity over the last few years. He just got kicked out, as reported in TC on the 18th of last month though, so maybe he's making his own new thing.

Search on YT for comma.ai and you'll see some good content.

[ edit: past tense, was Head of Research for. ]

sharcerer2• 8 years ago

Who said he got kicked out? He kicked himself out of CEO role. He's still at comma

bitexploder• 8 years ago

Google up GeoHot. Early jailbreaks on iOS. PS3 stuff.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz

Become a lot more mature in the last few years, smart guy.

Edit: not a must watch individual, but see what he is up to every so often.

jjeaff• 8 years ago

He's the infamous jacket that is know for rooting the iPhone as well as the PlayStation. He also gets press every so often for trolling musk and Tesla with his self driving startup that aims to hack regular production vehicles to self drive. Probably working on code related to self driving.

gitgud• 8 years ago

He's a young hacker who apparently hacked the iphone and Play Station 3, but now has founded a self driving car system designed for older cars.

Pretty interesting character, this is a [1] good interview about him and his ideas.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqdYbwY9vPU

kumarvvr• 8 years ago

I read his article on jailbreaking the first iPhone. It was awesome.He soldered one connector on an ic and held it high, to make the jailbreak happen. A very thorough article.

Guy is awesome.

sosense• 8 years ago

Guy who stole jailbreaks from IRC and went public with them, falsely claiming he created the hacks.

Creator of "live hack" youtube videos he later admitted were scripted and fake.

Founder of ridiculous self driving car company that never had a chance of going anywhere.

He's a charlatan.

lupinglade• 8 years ago

This is partially true. He did contribute but he was certainly not the only one. He seems to get all of the credit for the hard work of many.

palerdot• 8 years ago

Can someone correct the title with 'George Hotz'? Right now, the spelling is wrong and kind of misleading.

rick223• 8 years ago

Op of the thread here. Could some who has the authorization to change the title of the post please change "Holtz" to "Hotz". If you are reading this apologize "Hotz".

singularity2001• 8 years ago

So much keyboard trial and error, hit and miss;) Chaotic minds are the most creative!

George Holtz codes 11 hours straight live stream [video]

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