Node.js for Server Noobs

http://blog.dtrejo.com/nodejs-for-server-newbs

by DTrejo • 16 years ago

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aminuit• 16 years ago

FYI apt-get update does not update any packages. It just downloads the current list of packages and their versions from the repository.

patrickgzill• 16 years ago

That is right, apt-get update only updates the list. apt-get upgrade upgrade currently installed packages to the latest version.

If you want to do it all on one line, "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" is the answer.

The && means "run the second command only if the first command completes without an error" .

vog2• 16 years ago

Note that on modern Debian systems, aptitude is preferable to apt-get because it has better dependency resolution etc:

    aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade

You can also run aptitude without any arguments which starts a nice text UI:

    aptitude

White_N_Nerdy3• 16 years ago

Anyone have any info on using Node.js server code to talk to SOAP services?

mahmud• 16 years ago

Do you have an specific SOAP API in mind, or do you want a generic "SOAP sink" powered by Node? If the former, you can get away with your own lousy in-house implementation (2 pages of javascript, really.) If you want a full blown SOAP client implementation, including WSDL parsing, you better hope there exists something already.

My recommendation, as the developer of a SOAP client/server library; don't bother. Use Java or PHP, as those have the best SOAP libs out there, and figure out a way to pipe SOAP requests through your own java/php "proxy" app and let those libs take care of the cruft.

Using Node for SOAP is sacrilege. The two are diametrically opposed in their philosophies, and SOAP will easily negate any performance gains you might have made from using an event-drive server.

White_N_Nerdy3• 16 years ago

Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to use Node as a way of "pushing" events down to the browser, but the only way Node will know if an event has happened or not is by polling a particular SOAP service. I do own the SOAP service though, so I suppose that I could add a new interface and let Node just connect with TCP?

What's the standard way of doing RPC between Node an other types of services?

White_N_Nerdy3• 16 years ago

I got the answer on IRC. Basically, you either make your non-Node servers push events to Node.js using Http OR you use something like AMQP. browser -> node.js -> AMQP -> JEE and then JEE -> AMQP -> node.js -> browser.

points• 16 years ago

19 people upvoted this? Did you even check? It has 0 content.

The 'meat' of the "article" is

  webby# curl -O http://nodejs.org/dist/node-v0.2.0.tar.gz
  webby# tar xvzf node-v0.2.0.tar.gz
  webby# cd node-v0.2.0
  webby# ./configure
  webby# make
  webby# make install

Which I think most people who can read docs can work out.

DTrejo• 16 years ago

I did say it was for noobs.

Main useful bits:

* cheap host, $10/month, root access so no configuration headaches. My search didn't turn up many of those, and the node hosting wiki page is non-obvious: http://github.com/ry/node/wiki/Hosting/_edit (and only just added webbynode to the list)

* how to set up that machine in particular

* points to other helpful resources once node is installed

andrewvc• 16 years ago

rackspace cloud is $10/mo for the smallest vps. I've loved it over the last year.

Rauchg_• 16 years ago

You have to understand that most people are used to PHP and

./configure --with-abc --with-xyz --with-123=/in/some/place --without-something-else --disable-module --without-this-thing --and-everything-is-inconsistent

and then debugging paths, dependencies, realizing after 20 minutes of compilation that they're actually missing a module, editing php.ini and calling the president.

It's cool that articles like these actually highlight how easy deployment can be with Node. Thanks DTrejo!

vog2• 16 years ago

> Which I think most people who can read docs can work out.

I'd rather say: This is what people can work out without reading the doc. :-)

However, to be fair: The article links to various other articles which contain the "real" introduction, i.e. how to use node.js after it is installed.

Sephr2• 16 years ago

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Sephr2• 16 years ago

Woah, how did this get here? I honestly have no idea what this is about, please don't downvote.

c00p3r• 16 years ago

btw, it is time to put the support for clang++ in V8's scons build system. It is not obvious what file should I modify. In the case of a traditional make I just redefine one environment variable before doing ./configure or modify one variable in a Makefile (clang is compatible with gcc's command line arguments).

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