Bret Victor – Inventing on Principle (2012) [video]

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0xcb0• 8 years ago

In my opinion, this is an excellent presentation. I've watched this video in 2012 and have recommended it to a lot of people. Even though not many people will be able to use these tips on a daily basis, it's a "must watch" in my eyes. So inspiring and fun to watch. Watch it, when you have time! :)

bramjans• 8 years ago

Great stuff, like all of Bret Victor's talks. My favourite: is "The Future of Programming (2013)": https://vimeo.com/71278954

(I also liked this satirical blog post about that talk: http://alarmingdevelopment.org/?p=797)

ninjamayo• 8 years ago

Wish we could see more software being developed like Bret does it. Been looking for years and still haven’t encountered anything with that degree of freedom and flexibility. His platform game demo is amazing!

rayalez• 8 years ago

Relevant to this video, if you haven't heard, there's a new programming language called Luna(currently in beta), designed based on these principles.

http://www.luna-lang.org/

https://www.reddit.com/r/LunaLang/

Really exciting stuff.

filoeleven• 8 years ago

Oh, sweet, they finally released the beta! After the last time Luna appeared on HN, I kept checking their site for activity since they said they’d be updating soon, but forgot about them after a few months. Now there’s something we can actually play with!

This is probably worth submitting to HN again in order to alert people of the beta; there was a fair amount of interest before and I’m sure I’m not the only one to have missed the announcement on their site.

steveeq1• 8 years ago

Bret Victor's reading list, for anyone that's interested: http://worrydream.com/#!/Links

Dangeranger• 8 years ago

For those who want to see where Bret continued with these ideas, make sure to check out his presentation "The Humane Representation of Thought"[0] and his current research based on that talk "Dynamicland"[1] which is an in-person programmable physical classroom based in Oakland, CA.

[0] http://worrydream.com/TheHumaneRepresentationOfThought/note....

[1] https://dynamicland.org/

evv2• 8 years ago

DynamicLand seems awesome, but I'm afraid it will be forever irrelevant if it's not open-sourced or launched as a consumer product.

Are there any open source implementations of DynamicLand, that I could contribute to? If not, maybe I'll hack something together with JS and put it on Github.

Brett Victor has been inspiring me with his talks for years, but I can't help but wonder- when is he going to ship any of this awesome work!? His innovations would be profound for our industry, its a shame to see them locked away in closed research.

masukomi• 8 years ago

Brett's a R&D guy. R&D guys don't ship consumer products. They find the future paths and test if they're viable. Developing and maintaining a consumer product is a completely different skillset and one that would greatly hamper what he is best at if he tried to follow it. He's shown us what's possible and much of what he's shown _has_ been shipped by other people. Look at the playgrounds in Swift + XCode Those are totally based on ideas he put out in his talks.

Don't ask our best creative thinkers to be slaves to retail viability, and customer support. There are plenty of us who can manage that, but there are very few Brett Victors in the world.

paulgerhardt• 8 years ago

Much of the work at the DynamicLand is in the same vein as Mike Eisenberg's Post-PC/Craft Technology Lab[1]

Similar to the MIT Media Lab (Mike is an alum) much of the research focuses on physical computational interfaces beyond the traditional screen/keyboard model - i.e. how can we collaboratively 'compute' things with real physical objects around us. Or put another way, what does computing look like when everything is a computer. Some other projects to come out of there are the Lilypad Arduino, a project similar to DynamicLand called SHALE, and Lockitron.

[1] http://l3d.cs.colorado.edu/~ctg/Previous_Projects.html

bchjam• 8 years ago

Alex Warth of HARC has a new Dynamicland-inspired repo called roomdb https://github.com/alexwarth/roomdb

vanderZwan• 8 years ago

I often have moments where I go "I can't believe that was N years old already" - where currently N is usually around 15 +/- 5 years for me. This is the opposite: it feels weird that this video is only six years old! It has had such an impact on my life, my way of thinking and also my career (I studied IxD just around the same time), that it feels like it's been around forever.

beautifulfreak• 8 years ago

Isn't it about time for Bret to be noticed by the MacArthur Foundation?

Bret Victor – Inventing on Principle (2012) [video]

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