All the goodness gone from tea (1688)

https://books.google.com/books?id=ux89AAAAIAAJ&lpg=PA93&ots=_0XDTIXhUw&dq=%22all%20the%20goodness%20gone%20from%20tea%22&pg=PA93#v=onepage&q&f=false

by aleyan • 9 years ago

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m52go• 9 years ago

Sounds like the beginning of a good story. I really want to know what happens with this guy.

Would be nice if Google didn't limit the visibility of a book published in the 17th century.

csours2• 9 years ago

I was able to see it by scrolling up and down some.

https://imgur.com/gallery/cMoV7

alekratz3• 9 years ago

Oh wow, this worked for me too. Scroll up a page, then scroll down. You can keep reading.

wavefunction• 9 years ago

"Life, after all, is a dream of little more than fifty years, and, whatever one does for a living, it is not difficult to stay so brief a course."

sublime

B1FF_PSUVM2• 9 years ago

(Thanks, also works for me.)

"Risuke became stark mad, revealing his private affairs to the whole province."

Tough times.

maxerickson• 9 years ago

The book was published in 1959.

Even though it is derivative, translations are eligible for copyright as an original work.

http://bookwormtranslations.com/copyright-law-and-translatio...

efficax• 9 years ago

Even still, copyright should expire after less than 60 years.

SeanLuke• 9 years ago

Would be nice if Google didn't limit the visibility of a book published in the 17th century.

This book was published in 1959. It is copyrighted by Cambridge University Press and is a translation by G. W. Sargent, with introduction and commentary.

csours2• 9 years ago

But if we live by subhuman means we might as well never have had the good fortune to be born human.

solidsnack90002• 9 years ago

This is related to the Buddhist notion of the "opportunity of human form". (In the Fukazazengi, Dōgen renders this as 人身の機要, read "ninshin no kiyō".)

To be born a god is too easy -- it's hard to turn to the dharma when life is so good. To be born a demon or an animal is too difficult -- it's hard to practice the way when life is so tough. As a human, we recognize fairly early that life does not always go our way; but we are not without some control and capacity for disciplined practice. It's this combination that allows us to (a) want to practice and (b) be able to practice.

alekratz3• 9 years ago

I like how this book reads. A quick google search yields no copies for sale; does anyone know where I might purchase a copy?

jacobmischka• 9 years ago

I can't find any new items for sale, but a quick search revealed some used copies. It also seems to be available in a few libraries, but surprisingly I haven't been able to find a public domain download yet. https://smile.amazon.com/Japanese-Family-Storehouse-Ihara-Sa...

gcb0• 9 years ago

author books: http://webcat.georgian.edu/search?q=au%3AIhara%2C+Saikaku%2C

but sadly, no mentiom of the translator for the linked one, which I think is the most important part of your professed enjoyment.

gwern• 9 years ago

The front page + preface say that this translation was done by G.W. Sargent, as does the Bookfinder information, with no mention of any other translators, so I think Sargent translated everything in the book. As Saikaku's style is light and witty, I imagine most translations would read a good deal like Sargent's.

Searching, I can't find any scans or versions online aside from this unsatisfactory Google Books version. This also appears to be 1 of only 2 translations ever (the other being "Nippon eitaigura. The way to wealth. Translated by Soji Mizuno" 1955, but which is much shorter and the used copies also more expensive), and a brief excerpted story in Keene's _Anthology of Japanese Literature_.

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I've always meant to read Saikaku and didn't realize that _Storehouse_ was so hard to get (probably his third most famous work after _Amorous Man_ and _Women Who Loved Love_), so I've bought one of them off Amazon ($28.99) and I'll scan & upload it online at some point.

thesmallestcat• 9 years ago

I suggest using the excellent BookFinder.com, not Google or Amazon, to search for books.

https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?author=&title=Nippon+Eita...

Shows a handful of copies from $50-100.

alekratz3• 9 years ago

Awesome. Thanks so much.

Bodell• 9 years ago

Reminds me of a quote from Citizen Kane.

"It's no trick to make a lot of money if all you want... is to make a lot of money"

dfps• 9 years ago

For people who like this book, I would recommend the books by the haiku poets Issa and Basho (the books include Haiku here). And the Genji.

basicplus2• 9 years ago

Gaku Gold Ichi-bu ban-kin ND (1599), JNDA 09-30, Struck in the Keicho era, year 4 (1599),

https://coins.ha.com/itm/japan/japan-gaku-gold-ichi-bu-ban-k...

Camillo• 9 years ago

If he made his money by honest means, he still wouldn't have been able to take it to the afterlife.

I make a honest living, but, having no wife or children, I know that all the money I save will ultimately be enjoyed by people who hate and despise me.

iandanforth• 9 years ago

TLDR moral - "[I]f we live by subhuman means we might as well never have had the good fortune to be born human."

e12e• 9 years ago

You might be able to find it at a library:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/japanese-family-storehouse-or-...

polm23• 9 years ago

Looks like the original title is 茶の十徳も一度に皆, and it can be read (in modernized Japanese) here:

http://saikakuihara.blogspot.jp/2016/10/blog-post_57.html

All the goodness gone from tea (1688)

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