FBI and NSA Poised to Gain New Surveillance Powers Under Trump

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-29/fbi-and-nsa-poised-to-gain-new-surveillance-powers-under-trump

by joering2 • 10 years ago

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noir_lord• 10 years ago

Between the UK and US governments, its 'game over' without extraordinary attempts, the type of thing the average person would be unlikely to do you can assume they've penetrated or can penetrate every aspect of your digital life.

apsec1122• 10 years ago

Misleading title. Nothing has actually happened yet, the author is just speculating on what might possibly happen.

shopkins• 10 years ago

Are they not "poised" to get new powers?

thecabinet2• 10 years ago

No. The article says Trump's nominees probably want more powers. The only bill under consideration is S.3475 which is being delayed to allow more debate. A more honest title would be "We Hypothesize How Trump Will Be Awful But The Only Evidence We Provide Suggests Spying Powers Might Actually Grow Slower Than Under Obama"

Spooky23• 10 years ago

I'm poised to accept $100M. It's a meaningless concept.

throw2016• 10 years ago

Would you rather 'things happen' before anyone reacts and there is no discussion till then? What's the point of a comment like this.

The exact same kind of statement was made on HN a week ago about the grotesque snooper law in the UK and well now its law. And this is not new. There is a clear trend in process for years now.

Why would any citizen under threat from these kind of laws that shift tremendous powers to the state and take an irreversible step toward totalitarian outcomes make these diminishing dismissive statements?

apsec1122• 10 years ago

I am not dismissing the NSA or mass surveillance. I'm dismissing the title, which implies that specific new powers are about to be implemented. In fact, nothing has even been proposed yet; the author just speculates about what might be proposed in the indefinite future. A better title might be, eg., "Trump Appointees Might Propose More NSA Surveillance", or "Some Powers The NSA Might Gain Under Trump".

bogomipz2• 10 years ago

Yep cheap journalism designed to go after emotions. This is the same cheap journalism the media used during the election as well. In fact this is the mainstream media's stock and trade now. Bloomberg didn't used to be like this.

Not that I'm not seriously concerned about the subject because I am. I'm just commenting on the journalism or lack thereof here.

matthewbauer3• 10 years ago

So are we just supposed to wait 2-6 years until the next Snowden leaks something on what's changed since Obama? It seems fair to me to speculate on what Trump administration is "poised" to do based on officials' positions and past statements. Would "Trump poised to deport illegal immigrants" be unfair because he hasn't actually done it yet?

ceejay2• 10 years ago

I might be way off base in saying this, but I don't find it is simply convenient that FBI played what appears to have been a significant role in getting Trump elected, and will subsequently benefit greatly because of it.

JustSomeNobody2• 10 years ago

I don't think you're too far off base. Seems as though it's politics as usual these days.

However, I do believe surveillance would have continued to expand under HRC, also.

ceejay2• 10 years ago

What I think they fail to see is their short-sightedness (for short-term gain) is exactly the kind of mindset that appears to have caused the country to be on the cusp of an extremely turbulent time in history.

JustSomeNobody2• 10 years ago

The FBI, National Security Agency and CIA are likely to gain expanded surveillance powers under President-elect Donald Trump and a Republican-controlled Congress, a prospect that has privacy advocates and some lawmakers trying to mobilize opposition.

Why didn't these arsehats do anything the past EIGHT YEARS as Obama expanded surveillance!!!???

matthewbauer3• 10 years ago

I think they tried quite a few times and partially succeeded with the USA Freedom Act of 2015.

FBI and NSA Poised to Gain New Surveillance Powers Under Trump

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