Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

https://twitter.com/nexxylove/status/771503406716334080
@nodevember one way you could show you actually care about community safety & diversity is by uninviting Douglas Crockford.
@nodevember he has repeatedly shown himself to be actively hostile to fostering inclusivity and many will decline to speak if he is invited.
https://twitter.com/nodebotanist/status/512891046192504832
Did Doug Crockford seriously just say on stage that no one wants to use weak maps because weak isn't masculine? What? I don't even...

To which the twitter has reacted poorly and has escalated.

williamgb• 10 years ago

A casual observation of mine which I find intriguing me is that people who tend to make such complaints are largely just as obnoxious and objectionable as their targets.

AlexC045• 10 years ago

That's actually not just a casual observation. There is robust research showing that in most cases bullies are often bullied as well.

Here's a description from '08 https://www.theguardian.com/education/2008/aug/29/bullying.s... but that was just from a quick google, I first learned it in a university developmental psychology course 10 years earlier (which is to say my source is actually peer reviewed research)

Turns out, the way to "win" in bullying is to "disengage" and let it go.

karma_vaccum1232• 10 years ago

Can't wait until these people try making a kernel patch.

tnones2• 10 years ago

Is this going to get buried down on page 37 again because the comments contradict the feels brigade's self-image?

Edit: Fscking called it (http://sli.mg/HqLVu2). Just like LambdaConf. (https://twitter.com/antispamuel/status/719907750097129473). War is peace, excluding people is inclusivity and stomping out wrongthink is welcoming.

sctb• 10 years ago

The HN guidelines ask that you neither complain about downvotes nor made uncivil insults. Please don't do this, it's especially important on divisive topics such as this.

When a post like this is flagged, it's most often because users who fall on both sides of the relevant issue feel that it doesn't belong on HN.

tnones2• 10 years ago

Strange how I only ever see this happening to topics that paint the social justice brigade in a particularly bad light, a group that has a particularly censorious bent to boot.

Either way, every time I've seen it happen, the thread is young and still rising, so this flagging mechanism cannot possibly represent a meaningful slice of the HN readership, who are prevented from finding out.

That sounds like plain old censorship and information control to me, and I'm pretty sure the moderators know it.

ourmandave• 10 years ago

This remark doesn't help anything. https://twitter.com/izs/status/513011614803427328

sportanova• 10 years ago

"Racist" is the new "fascist", it doesn't mean anything, other than "I don't like it".

erlich• 10 years ago

From the statement: http://nodevember.org/statement.html

we became aware that based on private feedback - not simply the dialogue on Twitter - that his presence would make some speakers uncomfortable to the point where they refused to attend or speak.

What does the private feedback consist of, and did Crockford have a chance to respond to it?

It's scary that we are going down this path where you can now be kicked off an event with no publicly stated reasoning.

Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

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