IETF dress code

http://tools.ietf.org/rfcmarkup?doc=fyi17#section-4.4

by rbanffy • 16 years ago

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spolsky• 16 years ago

I love the way the IETF is still issuing reports formatted for ancient mainframe line printers, with hard-coded headers and footers and whatnot.

rbanffy2• 16 years ago

Think of it as future-proofing their documents.

Paper has two advantages: it keeps carbon from becoming a greenhouse gas and quite probably outlasts all our other backup mediums.

dmoney2• 16 years ago

Except clay tablets and this: http://rosettaproject.org/disk/concept/

malkia• 16 years ago

I preffer it that way. I can easily copy + paste it, put in a comment in the source code. It's way easier to exchange.

_delirium• 16 years ago

I like the ASCII text aspect for that reason, but does it really need the hard-coded headers and footers every 50 lines?

jacquesm• 16 years ago

The RFCS are all in this format, and since this provides some continuity across the whole set, I'm all for continuing in this way.

Think about what would happen if they made them all spiffy pdfs and then some guy 20 years from now would try to read them.

ASCII is forever, and having a page header on every page is relatively cheap, and helps to keep the context of which document you're looking at clear, the header is never more than 1/2 a page away.

It's quite hard to make a scrolling window with a steady header on a piece of paper ;)

robryan• 16 years ago

Given professional workplace without a dress code/ uniform it is interesting to see the large variation in what people decide to wear. From shit pants and nice shoes down to t-shirt shorts and runners.

dschobel2• 16 years ago

IETF are an odd bunch. I went to a meeting a few years back and was warned that there might be a humming for consensus.

What is humming for consensus you ask? Well, rather than a show of hands, when deciding on measures and proposals they simply ask the room to hum in favor of a measure.

The reason is simply that even if you are sitting next to your boss it will still be possible for you to vote according to your conscience as it's virtually impossible to distinguish the direction of humming in a room of a hundred or so people. It is, however, easy to tell if a measure has the majority support of a group via humming.

It's very geeky and very smart. Very IETF.

zandorg• 16 years ago

But someone could have a huge flat speaker to make a humming noise and influence the vote!

dschobel2• 16 years ago

Well since there's no roll call or concept of membership at ietf a more real problem is companies flooding the room with their employees for critical votes.

10ren• 16 years ago

Cute implementation of a "silent" ballot, but loud hummers get a disproportionate vote.

vkdelta2• 16 years ago

Never saw this before. Thanks for sharing.

rbanffy2• 16 years ago

Thank George (really nice guy who tweets mostly in Portuguese): http://twitter.com/georgeguimaraes/statuses/8705110867

I never imagined IETF issued memos with dress code...

Joe_Bananas2• 16 years ago

fucking fascists!

vkdelta2• 16 years ago

What makes think they are?

Joe_Bananas2• 16 years ago

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

pyre• 16 years ago

You're right! Fornicating with Nazis is not allowed!

aaronsw• 16 years ago

For those wondering, "There are those in the IETF who refuse to wear anything other than suits. Fortunately, they are well known (for other reasons) so they are forgiven this particular idiosyncrasy." is a reference to Vint Cerf. Though I did see Vint in a tracksuit once...

robk• 16 years ago

I hope it was a three-piece tracksuit, at least. Does Juicy Couture make vests??

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