The Next Mainstream Programming Language: A Game Developer’s Perspective

http://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/edu/seminare/2005/advanced-fp/docs/sweeny.pdf

by pufuwozu • 17 years ago

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Slideshow from Gears Of War developer, seems to be advocating Haskell as the "next mainstream programming language".

SirWart• 17 years ago

He actually mentions at the end of the slides why Haskell doesn't work. I would phrase it as "Let's take these really good ideas from Haskell and move them into a more mainstream language."

etherealG• 17 years ago

surely if mainstream is the thing you want, then more people using haskell would solve that? I don't see how moving to another language helps the mainstream problem, actually it hinders it since less people will be using your new language than are using haskell already.

tel• 17 years ago

Purely Functional is the right default

Imperative constructs are vital features that must be exposed through explicit effects-typing constructs

This is precisely the argument Haskellers make every time someone complains about algorithms that are difficult to formulate functionally.

jefffoster• 17 years ago

There's some further discussion of this over at LtU (http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1277)

sundarurfriend• 17 years ago

Those requests for the ability to have range limited data types reminds me strongly of Ada.

jcl• 17 years ago

Me too. And as Tim might hope, Ada seems to be more popular among safety-critical software implementers. However, Ada also seems to run a bit slower in practice than C -- which is odd, considering that you are handing the compiler more information about the code.

azharcs• 17 years ago

For those of you, who don't know, Who Tim Sweeney is?

Tim Sweeney is the founder of Epic Games and the person behind very famous Unreal game engines. John Carmack,Tim Sweeney have been some of my heroes from gaming world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Sweeney_%28game_developer%2...

tomstuart• 17 years ago

More relevant now than ever, but note that these slides are ~4 years old.

wglb• 17 years ago

This might be old, but it very excellently done. One thing I like about it is that the assertions an conclusions are backed up by 1) real-world experience 2) deep understanding of programming language issues.

The Next Mainstream Programming Language: A Game Developer’s Perspective

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