USA Asked Norway to Arrest Edward Snowden

http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/usa-asked-norway-to-arrest-edward-snowden-1.12521802

by veqz • 11 years ago

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ohaal• 11 years ago

Relevant now because:

In a little over a week, Snowden is to be awarded the prestigious Bjørnson Prize[1] by the Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson Academy.

He receives the award for his disclosures of the threat to free speech constituted by the electronic surveillance that he has revealed.

Snowden is invited to Norway to receive the prize. But no one can give a clear answer on what will happen to him, should he land at Oslo Airport.

[1] http://blogg.bjornsonakademiet.no/uncategorized/a-prize-for-...

sandworm101• 11 years ago

The guy did grab a bunch of documents and flee the country. He may have been doing the right thing but I cannot find fault in US authorities trying to get him back in the immediate aftermath of the leak. It is not for law enforcement or junior diplomats to decide these matters. Someone running with documents is always to be stopped. Pardoning is a matter for the executive rather than agencies or the diplomatic corps.

dalke• 11 years ago

While the nomination of George Tsunis as ambassador to Norway shows how little the US administration cares about its representation in Norway, the justification for appointing fundraisers like Tsunis as ambassadors is that there are senior diplomats in the diplomatic corps who actually run the embassy.

If you want to say this is "junior diplomats" doing their job, then what's the point of having an embassy with no senior diplomats in the loop?

f3llowtraveler• 11 years ago

He discovered evidence of unconstitutional (illegal) actions by those in government, with the potential to lead to an Orwellian society. He took on significant personal risk and made a huge sacrifice in order to inform the public of this government wrongdoing.

He fled because there is no chance of a fair trial. (You can Google the specifics, but he wouldn't have been able to present his case at trial -- not that he should be facing a trial in the first place, since he is a whistleblower, not a spy.)

He turned over the data to responsible journalists to make sure it was vetted properly and the public could be safely informed without jeopardizing national security.

He's a patriot and a hero. The fact that he is still living in Russia and being treated like a criminal by the U.S. government, instead of receiving a medal in the USA, is a strong indictment of our government and clear evidence of our ongoing loss of freedom.

coldtea• 11 years ago

The guy did grab a bunch of documents and flee the country. He may have been doing the right thing but I cannot find fault in US authorities trying to get him back in the immediate aftermath of the leak. It is not for law enforcement or junior diplomats to decide these matters. Someone running with documents is always to be stopped. Pardoning is a matter for the executive rather than agencies or the diplomatic corps.

What you described is law. He clearly broke the law. It's according to the law that "it is not for law enforcement or junior diplomats to decide these matters".

But what matters to most of us is justice. That is: was what he did the right (as opposed to the legal) thing to do?

If he was, then we can very much find "find fault in US authorities trying to get him back" -- in fact we can find fault in all their previous behavior, that he helped expose.

The same way I'd find fault with any authorities doing something bad, whether it's their "job" or not. In the same way I wouldn't excuse some 1850 judge ordering the hanging of a slave who tried to break free, or the hangman who did it, even if they followed the law.

nickysielicki• 11 years ago

These programs were put in place by our past two presidents and their cabinets. No type of internal review board is going to ever going to appreciate a 20-something sysadmin complaining about 'constitutionality' and 'freedom' when the president himself knows about the program and actively fights for continuing it.

Snowden had no other choice. He's a hero.

USA Asked Norway to Arrest Edward Snowden

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