Assembly 2015 demo party winning entry

http://archive.assembly.org/2015/demo/monolith-by-andromeda-software-development

by zaf • 11 years ago

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jzzskijj2• 11 years ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10050086

pavlov• 11 years ago

Posting dupes is generally considered ok on HN if the link is relevant but the previous post didn't get noticed. (Sometimes the mods will even email you asking to repost a link.)

In this case, the interest in the 1k intro winner makes it likely that people might want to see the demo compo winner too, so IMO the repost is warranted.

jcr• 11 years ago

No, not really. The submission you linked to never got any attention. A small number of reposts are allowed if a story hasn't gotten significant attention in the last year. See here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

misnome• 11 years ago

Very impressive. I don't fully understand the Demo party competitions - what constraints/limitations are there for this category? I assume it has to run real-time (i.e. not just a prerecorded video) but can people otherwise e.g. turn up with whatever they have made over time?

Jare3• 11 years ago

It is usually expected that all the work included in the demo (code, visual art and music) is originally created by the demo authors (or donated by friends / collaborators). Most of the demo is also expected to be original material, but it is ok to reuse some material from demo to demo (audio samples, textures, models, animations, shaders) as long as it is used in a unique way.

Demos and intros have to run in real time on the target machine without downloading new material on the fly. There used to be fairly generous size limits for the "demo" category, whereas the "intro" categories vary among 64kb, 40kb, 4kb, 1kb and even 256 bytes. They are meant to run autonomously, without needing user interaction. Demo competitions usually include other categories such as standalone music, art of various styles (pixel, 2d, 3d, procedural) and "wild" demos which are the exception in that they are pre-recorded videos.

As with any form of art, there are always people that ignore or challenge some of these rules and assumptions in one way or another, and a few do so in memorable ways, but that's another discussion.

bane3• 11 years ago

I'll add that there's quite a bit of controversy over the 2nd place demo this year, "DEMO2" by ekspert. It centers around the use of Unreal Engine 4 as the engine the demo was coded in (and a few other assets like animations "borrowed" from elsewhere). This is all normally very frowned upon in competition.

It's brought up a bit of an existential question in the scene however, it's not uncommon for teams to use their own engine, or engines coded by other teams, and assets of various sorts are frequently borrowed (but heavily remixed) and used in demos (famously photos of models are often turned into digital paintings used as filler scenes, but it extends to samples and other material).

So DEMO2 exists purely on its artistic merits, design and style without a great deal of technical work having been done by the team. So is it "ok" by the unwritten scene rules or does it challenge the scene to focus less on the technical merits of a piece and only on the artistic bits?

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=66096

gpvos• 11 years ago

Can I find somewhere what the size of code and data was for this demo?

ctdonath2• 11 years ago

From source site: "Demos are programs that generate multimedia presentations in real time while the demo is running. ... In Demo competition the only realistic limitation for the demo was the speed of a high-end 2015 PC computer."

Jare3• 11 years ago

A pretty recent interview with Navis, the programmer of this demo (and many other gems of the demoscene): http://6octaves.blogspot.com.es/2015/04/interview-navis-asd....

jzzskijj2• 11 years ago

This was the first time I read Navis' comments about Moroder ripoff case. I wish ASD got well compensated.

It is interesting to read, that Navis (or ASD) won't be available for third parties (as in music videos.) And he has no current interest work without aMUSIC. aMUSIC seems to strongly divide opinions in demo scene (especially because of his use of electric guitar), but I enjoyed the audio in Monolith a lot.

Audiophilip• 11 years ago

Here's a link to a 60fps video capture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGm33hsXP9w

However, if you have a decent GPU, I think it's worth running the original executable (no video compression artifacts, etc): http://www.asd.gr/~navis/ASD-Monolith.zip

frou_dh• 11 years ago

Never mind running it, you'll need a decent GPU just to decode the 1080p60 capture in real time. My poor 9600M GT isn't up to it.

KuhlMensch• 11 years ago

I'd be curious to see the tooling pipeline for the animations, camera and edits (and I'd be absolutely amazed if there was none).

z303• 11 years ago

You could have a look at .werkkzeug [1] and this talk [2] by Digi/Alcatraz

[1] http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12511 [2] http://thedemoscene.tumblr.com/post/22588846914/digialcatraz...

Zolomon• 11 years ago

Would be nice to see the source code for this.

Munksgaard• 11 years ago

The pouet page has a download link that includes some of the source code: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=66065

It's just above the youtube link on the right.

Intermernet• 11 years ago

Or even just the size of the source code!

Assembly 2015 demo party winning entry

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