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I remember the last Thiel thread was a holy war filled with people who thought outspoken Trump supporters should lose their careers on grounds of bigotry and hate speech propagation (citing https://xkcd.com/1357/ among other things).

Revisiting that thread with the knowledge that Trump would win and that Trump supporters were not some vocal minority is sobering.

Tell me, are you afraid of criticizing President Obama on Twitter? Are you afraid jack-booted secret police might kick down your door in the middle of the night and throw you in prison for 5 years if you complain about the government on Facebook? Those are the types of problems people in UAE have to deal with.

It's a sad world we live in that I speed read your post and wasn't sure if you meant the UAE or USA..........

I hate this type of rhetoric comparing the USA to a police state. The USA does not detain, "disappear," or torture political dissidents or opponents. The USA is not a police state. It's not even close to a police state.

Initially, it will explore the feasibility of building a line linking the two cities.

So now it's one of those "feasibility" projects?

Hyperloop suffers from the same problem as Solar Freakin' Roadways and Artificial Gills, I'm afraid: too much saying, not enough doing. I am instantly suspicious of projects that have lots of hyped up marketing but little to no prototypical substance.

To me, Hyperloop One still seems like a sci-fi pipe dream (pun intended).

Your belief should be based on the evidence you have, even if that means a small amount that leads you to an extreme conclusion.

That's one way of thinking, but I reject it. You'll easily be manipulated by political and corporate agendas if you think this way.

Often my own intuition is at odds with the "evidence I have" and I turn out to be right later. If I had jumped to the (extreme) conclusion that smoking was healthy back in the 70s and 80s because of the evidence big tobacco was pushing from the shadows (doctors recommending brands, etc) I might not be here today.

I've taught myself to enjoy damn near every food and drink out there and I am immensely glad that I have—I now inhabit a world filled with delights.

Well yeah, when you have drugs to "teach" your brain how to enjoy something (i.e. "this flavor = feel goods"), it's not that hard. I always figure that having to aqcuire the taste of something via drugs is a warning sign that said thing is probably not good for your body. Take tobacco connoisseurs for example.

I don't doubt that they can taste and enjoy lots of "woody" and "grassy" flavors in their smoke, but to someone like me without the acquired taste, it smells foul and acrid, and my brain is warning me to stay away.

But that's not the same as 'appreciation,' which requires some education and experience, maybe even some aptitude.

OP's point is that without the information about the price and make of the wine, your brain alone can't "appreciate" anything not matter how educated and experienced you are. If someone tells you you are drinking a rare extremely expensive french 100-year-old vintage, your brain will "appreciate" it, even if it's actually cheap box wine.

Is it better we have full agency and can potentially abuse things (sugar/fat, guns, drugs) or have limited agency that protects us from ourselves in the interest of public welfare?

Guns are often political focus because they are high profile in the media, but there are lots of "silent killers" that are responsible for orders of magnitude more deaths per year that don't get high profile press coverage (medical malpractice, alcohol-related deaths, etc.).

Politicians aren't looking out for us, they are just trying to prop themselves up.

Come on, you don't go to a mall with a pencil, a brick or a bow and kill 50+ people

Has this ever happened in the history of any 1st world country? The closest we've ever come is the Orlando shooting at 49, but... the events with the highest body counts are vehicular mass murder or bombs, not guns (9/11, Nice France, Oklahoma bombing, etc.)

Desperation for action. If things are going badly, something must be done. This is something, so it must be done.

I see this in politics a lot. If things are going badly (another "mass shooting" happens), something must be done. Even if the solution is crap (ban "assault weapons") it is something, so it must be done.

Treat their abuse as a health issue, not a criminal one.

A health issue with a cost burden on responsible people who exercise good judgment. Addicts rarely pay for their own treatment.

When my brother overdosed on heroin, the police laughed about just another dead junkie. Yeah, I feel so much safer.

As far as I know, my entire extended family has not has a single drug abuse case. And certainly a drug death would be unheard of. We were all taught growing up that mind-altering substances should be avoided at all costs, and it paid off with a virtual 0% drug usage rate in the family.

Contrast with your family where you yourself openly admit to using drugs recreationally and think they are good, yet your brother died overdosing on them. I would venture to guess that there are other, unnamed members of your family that use drugs and have or had drug problems in the past.

The best and simplest place to stop drug abuse is in the home via good parenting. That is my vision for what America should strive for. I can't lend my support to your cause because I don't believe in it. I believe that if my parents and grandparents taught us it was okay to experiment "safely" with drugs and such that the amount of drug abuse in the extended family would go way up. Good luck-

That said, I think there's a lot of unhealthy gun fetishization and lots of tragic deaths from irresponsible gun owners.

Right, but my point was that cost is worth the freedom. There's a lot of unhealthy drug fetishization and tragic deaths from irresponsible drug users too, and I think you already said the cost is worth the freedom.

I believe in personal freedom up to the point where that freedom impedes on that of another. What you put in your body is your own god damn business.

If the world worked like that, I would agree with you whole-heartedly. But in real life, drug users end up killing or otherwise abusing people around them (whether it be through DUIs, child neglect, safety mistakes, etc.). So along with drug legalization there have to be dozens of secondary laws that outline what you can and can't do under the influence, where you can and can't go, etc. And people (of course, not thinking clearly while under the influence), will break these laws anyway and end up killing people, destroying property, etc.

Do you think we should make junk food illegal to protect those that can't control themselves.

Completely illegal? No. But I see the value in limiting accessibility to junk food, especially in schools and such, where kids are still developing self-discipline. So maybe that's where I can agree with you.