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Hmm... The key is to successfully decompose a big, hard problem into easier atomic sub-problems. However, the decomposition process itself is difficult, and this paper is not about that. They decompose a task using a human-written prompt.

Prompts are really an interesting way of programming, and we can actually express logic containing abstract adjectives like ‘happy’ and ‘unsatisfied’ in a somewhat arbitrary way.

"As an analogy, imagine that you could put your dog or cat into hibernate mode whenever you left on a trip. Your dog or cat might not notice, but even if they did, they might not mind. Now imagine that you could put your child into hibernate mode whenever you were too busy to spend time with them. Your child would absolutely notice, and even if you told them it was for their own good, they would make certain inferences about how much you valued them. That’s the situation the human characters in the story find themselves in." Fascinating.

"Note on "tuned": OpenAI shared they trained the o3 we tested on 75% of the Public Training set. They have not shared more details. We have not yet tested the ARC-untrained model to understand how much of the performance is due to ARC-AGI data."

Really want to see the number of training pairs needed to achieve this socre. If it only takes a few pairs, say 100 pairs, I would say it is amazing!

I think the last paragraph quite makes sense. It seems "true" that some kind of reasoning capability emerges as LLMs get bigger, which makes those LLMs quite useful and blows a lot of people's minds at the beginning. But, I think, essentially, the fundamental training goal of LLMs--guessing what the next word should be--pushes the model into a kind of reasonable nonsense generator, and the reasoning capability emerges because it can help the model to make stuff up. Therefore, we should be cautious about the result generated by these LLMs. They might be reasonable, but to make up the next word is their real top priority.

Maybe in the future there might be some kind of "forbidden to use in commercial AI models" policy on websites in the near future, just like what the art community is doing now.

It's fascinating to think about the future landscape of the search and web.

Some assumptions: 1. Url-based web will not wither away. 2. Asking questions in the chat-like mode is more natural to people. 3. Generated answers cost more when longer. 4. Generated answers are some kind of distilled knowledge and can't be right all the time. 4. People don't like long answers and prefer the concise one. 5. Sources and citations make generated answers more credible. 6. Fully exploring a question needs a lot of information from different views. 7. Generated answers

some simple thoughts: The search behavior would hugely be two main steps: 1.getting some concise answers from the AI model directly through a chat, which might be enough for 90% use cases. 2.some more extensive search just like how people are searching today, which might be a kind of niche.

For websites, being cited in the generated answers will be the new kind of SEO things, and it would be a good strategy to producing some newest, deep or long-tail knowledge and information, which leads to a more traditional way of search because AI model doesn't have enough data to generate a good answer.

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