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He was Un's half brother. First line of the article.

I've always wondered if Google did that. Seems obvious enough to just watch people using premade searches and see what they are up to.

Oh, I'm wrong because you don't like my username, copy that.

I lead a team of women doing computational pharmaceutical research. 12 women and 3 males, and 2 female undergrads and 2 male undergrads.

But hey, your narrative is that I'm out of touch with women because I'm not a woman so how could I possibly know, and I wouldn't want to ruin that little victory for you.

This sounds like StackOverflow's mascot AI.

I've never once heard rumors like these until recently but I've noticed an uptick in people saying that there HAS been, when there hasn't been rumors to begin with.

Well actually I'd say that I just explained exactly why that's a bad idea. No business is too big for consumers to choose to destroy. Yahoo is a good case in point. People chose, Yahoo was killed.

The free market could do it overnight tonight, if people chose to. I get the feeling there's a lot of uninformed people who think the free market is some boogie man voodoo science that someone made up, but it's all black and white in reality. The core forces of markets are very well understood for the past... Oh about 400+ years.

"wouldn't it be better to just let the govt strictly enforce arbitrary rules with zero checks and balances from people who actually have to experience it?"

No.

I think yall are on the wrong side of this. Benefits of the free market vanish once regulations begin. If comcast wants to charge by the hour, let 'em try. How long until some guy creates the same product for 1/100 the price?

Scarcity being the key point here. You don't have a RIGHT to use the internet, that's why it works in the first place as a commodity of sorts.

I want the market to destroy comcast, Google fiber, etc. No more megacorp ISPs.

I'd love to see the FCC dissolved entirely, tbh. We're not helpless, if like a meshnet initiative r we got some real big faces behind it, we'd have a gov-proof Internet in no time.

I agree mostly but I'd argue that most F# devs are coming from c# to begin with. I'd love to see some data suggesting otherwise, but I have a very strong feeling that its true. I also like multi paradigm, doesn't take away from F# at all, but it's something that doesn't mix well with developers not familiar with the NETverse

Well in the past sure, but MS is really pushing that """new leaf""" story, but they're busy fucking up the actual execution of it all.

Edit: just before somebody starts whining about it, I ain't got no problems with NET on its own, but the barrier to proficiency in it from a functional universe is needlessly high, and if F# had a stronger core it would be something non NET programmers could pick up along the way rather than continuously bash their heads into while doing rather menial work.

I don't want to sound whiny either but it's such a punch in the gut when someone sees me struggling with basic FP stuff in F#, just because I guess I'm so proud of what I've learned about FP in other languages.

There's also some stuff that F# is missing, but it hasn't screwed me yet because I still haven't figured out enough about all the NET classes.

I realize that .NET is F#'s biggest strength from the perspective that Microsoft probably holds of trying to push C# more functional, and trying to attract talent from R, Ocaml, Rust, Julia, Haskell, etc, but it also feels like its biggest weakness.

I'd love to see some sort of bootstrapped version that makes use of .NET Native or CoreRT or whatever they use today, and I'd REALLY like to see a strong Stdlib for F# that takes into account what functional programmers are used to.

I've been doing functional programming for several years, and I feel like a moron working with F# because I don't know half of these dumb .NET classes and some of the domain problems don't really leave me able to budget enough time to bootstrap my own solutions OR learn all the .NET stuff I need. Especially not when I can jump into several other languages and have a working prototype often in days or hours.

Wow!!!!!

Stanford is the last place on earth that I'd expect to actually confront university PC culture.

What an exciting discussion that will follow this!

Well because it's dealing with like comments on blog posts. There's a time and place for mass scale comment backends, but most blogs are not those places, and most people ain't got the time anyways.

Fowler has submitted exactly zero proof that any of this even actually happened.

Yall, I'm down with Uber. I know there's a lot of mudslinging lately, but I am so damn excited about the future. A world where we can do pub transit + big data, freight + big data, air freight + big data, food delivery + big data et al.

Bad shit happens sometimes. There's a lot of shitty assholes in the world, but crucifying a worthy cause and successful business because a couple of morons work there just seems counter productive.

As other comments have noted, this smells like the github situation a while back, and I'm no fan AT ALL of github, but even I concede that they are making a real difference for open source. I think uber is making that difference for moving people/things.

I want to see some justice, I want to know exactly how it went down and how it was able to get to that point ie a dependency resolution as far as who shirked policy and who didn't, AND THEN I want business as usual. Shit happens, fix it, move on.

Yeah, meta is something I always struggled with in Lua, as you're completely constrained to the table structures, but just that little extra power of being able to metaprogram over whatever data I want, is absolutely incredible, and it's a bit easier to think about imo than Scheme macros just in the sense of trying to macroexpand in your head.

What a shame that I'm excited that my country still supports my rights as a citizen to some degree.

I'm disappointingly satisfied. Our rights are inalienable and self-evidently truthful. How can someone or some court thereafter determine what rights I have?

I'm really anxious for Julia to start taking packaging more seriously. Pkg2 situation is pretty terrible imo, and the pkg3 whispers just sort of strike me as offputting, since there's basically no timeline of when they'll make it to a stable 0.x release and the 1.0 is just a "when it's ready" situation.

Julia is one the most pleasant programming experiences I've had otherwise. It's the Lua I've always wanted, with just the right mix of Scheme, but not too much that it tastes Haskell-y.

But yeah, current packaging situation is awful.

Oh, that reminds me though, Julia has a lot of really incredible packages already. It's mindblowing how quick Julia went from "new technical computing language" to "general purpose, performant language with a ton of useful packages readily available and they actually work"

Leveraging the technical computing open source community turns out to work really well!

If you could outline points of what I've posted that aren't substantial or empirically correct, I'd appreciate it.

Otherwise I might be bold enough to note that it would seem you'd like to influence this discussion (which is well within policy afaik) by whinging about good posts, which obviously is horrendously unethical, so I'm sure you are eager to prevent that misunderstanding. Just trying to clarify

You seem to say this as if people's livelihoods aren't something they'd feel strongly about. I've noticed a certain rhetoric lately wherein Theranos is """just headlines""" but I mean, imagine for a second if YOU were in that situation. It's such a high visibility thing too, I myself am waiting with bated breath for many reasons. Not the least of which being I'd like to hire some of their talent when it explodes, but I think even with that bias, I think my point stands that the situation is in fact much more grave for those involved than the headlines and HN fawning might convey to someone not familiar.

I never said I knew everything about theranos, and anyways I don't care to, but I've been in a situation where my corp was really fucking up and I started to worry about my hirability being affected just by working there. I was only a contractor, but still.

Yeah, I was just about to reflex-respond to your comment before I read the last line, because med science is something that I'd contend the vast majority of HN to be unfamiliar with. Depending on what the pay or benefits or whatever the retention situation for medsci workers at Theranos is, maybe it's just good sense to milk that cash for however long they can before going back to whatever else is there for them.

I agree though, it certainly says something about an employee who worked at Theranos, or Enron, or higher-up Samsung, etc.

220 is a lot of people, too.

Anyways, my point about medsci is that the field of medsci is so diverse and specialized that it might be hard to find somebody with both neuropsychology + pharma experience (just an example) and I think that a few people lingering around are probably just being overpaid so much to stay that it would be foolish to give that money up until you absolutely had to.

Super elite talent (Lattner comes to mind) has some different dynamics to it, but it's the same principle of having such a strong but also highly specialized base of knowledge, that it makes sense to ante up in order to get that talent onboard, and for the talent it'd be ridiculous to turn down the money since you're so valuable that you'd be able to morph your new workload into something that will make you a stronger developer regardless. Similar to someone with extremely advanced medical knowledge, just being around the right environment and tools and stuff would probably give that person tremendous ROI, on top of being paid well, that when the storm passes they'll be stronger because of it.

Lots of angles to think about with all of this!

There's no shame in paying the rent, imho.

People still onboard either:

* don't know the risks somehow, so they must be idiots

* know the risks, but think they'll get paid

* know the risks, but haven't put together an escape plan

* know the risks, and are just waiting for last check before they start whatever the next chapter of their life is going to be

Well I don't know, I didn't say I knew. I'm just pointing out that there are obvious weak points in critical infrastructure in space, as there are weak points in undersea cables, etc. Lots of infrastructure has bad aspects. I wish I had some deeper, enlightening insight about it all, but I don't.

"""Might"""

Give me a break, Theranos is the biggest disgraceful excuse of a company that I've ever even heard of, and I've been reading this dumb board for 5+ years now.

That people aren't 100% dismissive of Theranos is absolutely mind-boggling. The level of corruption, incompetence, and just the poor organization of it all.

Other commenters have also noted that if they aren't doing well on cash, they're pretty much dead anyways.

I want Theranos to crash and burn as loud as humanly possible, so that people might pay attention for two seconds and look at what happens when you refuse to give a shit about the ethics and competence behind your business/startup.

Now, I suspect a lot of Theranos employees at this point are probably just waiting on that last check, but there's probably some poor souls on that list who really wanted to achieve something, and now they're more or less fucked from having to be associated with Theranos. It will be harder for them to find a new job with that black mark, I'm sure poor severance will make it hard for them to bootstrap their own ideas. They are backed into a corner, because of Theranos.

Life in an unethical business can be nasty, brutish and short.

No, but you might notice I didn't exactly advocate for under sea cable proliferation either. It has the same (percieved, I'm no expert) flaws.

Slightly tangential, but I'm really interested at the political influence of what space satellites or balloon Internet might do.

I'm considering a scenario where a nefarious, space-capable entity is capable of disabling satellites. Idk I guess from the perhspective of like a civil engineer or something, it seems that an idea where your infrastructure is out of reach or particularly vulnerable seems like a bad idea.

There could be """accidental""" space object collisions, direct attacks on them, or even just unforeseeable maintenance difficulties trying to take care of dozens or hundreds or thousands of objects not immediately available to us, serving an incredibly critical and global backbone of infrastructure, for more or less every industry on earth, or potentially ventures off earth as well.

What an exciting time to be alive, it's like some Twilight Zone Star Trek mashup lately.

Edit: the title of this post is pretty dumb btw, I contend it should be changed to reflect changes in the program, not its abandonment

At least Oracle has actual products though. I don't wanna stick up for Oracle by any means, but comparing them with theranos just ain't right.