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If anybody ever happens upon this thread, I just want to point out, for the record, that froren is lying. He has obviously listened to and remembered this old Ron Paul speech and he understood exactly what Dr. Paul was saying, but for deceptive reasons froren choses to feign misunderstanding.

The (very clear) point of Dr. Paul's RNC speech was that regular people are better at solving problems than the government. If the government stopped taking tax money to monopolize "helping the poor" (while wasting most of that money on ever ballooning bureaucracy) then churches and other private initiatives would step in to do the job better, and at better value for the money. We wouldn't just let our sick and our poor die in the street, because unlike a faceless bureaucratic machine that inevitably comes to exists only to perpetuate itself and its own power, we are humans who care about other people.

The people at the RNC were cheering for the goodness of regular people, for the fact that Americans give more to charity than any other nation, and for the positive libertarian vision championed by Dr. Paul.

When the government gets in the way, and makes everyone poorer (by excessive taxation and bureaucracy), however, people become colder, and they can always excuse it to themselves by pointing out that the government promised to solve the problem, and they already forced us to pay them to solve it. So now it is the government's responsibility, but a bureaucracy cannot have any feelings of responsibility, because it is a machine and not a human.

This is also what happens in communist countries like China and the USSR before it.

Unfortunately, many people will probably just read deceptive statements like feoren's, and never go listen to the actual speeches. The left loves to dissuade people from actually listening to conservatives. Just see how they are shamelessly lying right now about Trump's "bloodbath", hoping to stir up actual political violence from people who they manage to trick and frighten.

The left is always trying to use 1984 style newspeak to prevent people from having an honest debate, so naturally they talk as if it was an established fact that either a government bureaucracy must continuosly rob Peter to pay Paul, or everyone starves.

This is because the left wants as big and powerful of a state apparatus as possible, because they intend to use it as an army against their political enemies. A recent example of how the left sees the role of the government is Letita James' lawfare against Donald Trump.

Ron Paul's message was that whenever the government tries to "help", it always backfires. Expecting the government to solve social problems, and allowing them to take money from regular people, leads to financial ruin for the country, and it won't even fix the very problems it claims as the reasons why we must give up our freedom and prosperity. In fact it always manages to make the problems worse.

even though bodybuilding as a community is perceived and perceives itself as being driven by scientific research, it is still almost completely anecdote driven,

Well I mean, it IS driven by scientific research, just not research into exercise physiology as much as organic chemistry

If I suspend my disbelief for a second, do you have a link to any interviews or similar with those protesters?

Surely you are not conflating quotes from peaceful demonstrators against (alleged) election fraud, with militants trying to violently overthrow the government?

Can somebody explain, since this was a long planned coup attempt against a Capitol that has its own police force, in a capital that has one of the largest and most heavily armed police forces in the world, why did the guncrazy far right militants leave their guns at home? And instead behaved mostly like an out of control protest with a few dozen violent rioters? It is a very peculiar way to attempt to overthrow a government.

the possible retort I could make that then interests of the politically powerful can not only coincide with the will of the people but also be the will of the people

The good old 'those noble and good hearted revolutionaries get to be the politically powerful and the "will" of the plebs better align with theirs, or else...'

In the end, there is only IngSoc!

If you want to broadcast to state level, you must have education, journalism rigor, and standup to scrutiny, have to explain inconsistencies or your role is revoked.

And make no mistake, what they mean in reality by the above is always the same, namely that "free speech" will mean you are freely allowed to repeat the talking points of the Party.

In the unlikely event that your post isn't immediately removed by the moderators, I just want to add that it is obvious that nobody on the left actually honestly believe the over-the-top hysterical nonsense they have been spouting the past 2 weeks.

Ask them to explain, if these were organized far right militants trying to overthrow the government in the most heavily guarded city in the world, in a building that has it's own heavily armed police force, how come they didn't bring guns?

The left are the ones actually carrying out a coup against democracy, by using the chaos and confusion caused by a pointless protest that spiraled out of control.

nice dishonest changing of the meaning of the quote by removing part of the sentence.

In any case it's not ad hominem to attack an ideology or a behavior.

I tried editing my original comment immediately after posting to clarify I'm talking about the activist far left, not the average democrat (although with all the impeachment nonsense, who knows anymore) but I was prevented from doing so by malicious flagging seconds after posting, as usual on this board if you are not far left. I know from experience, and so do you, that far leftists gleefully celebrate any little damage they can inflict on their ideological opponents, including petty things like malicious flagging and mass downvoting to supress differing opinions.

I understand you're trying to "draw me out in the open" or whatever you guys call it these days, so you can cancel me, too. So no, what is telling is that almost all conservative or libertarian comments on this board are made from throwaways.

The original comment was meant as a warning to young conservatives who naively belive honesty and good intentions will save them. The fact that my predictions were accurate should speak for itself.

Only bad for business because of political dealings. The AWS name was not associated with Parler.

In my view, the more likely actual reason for the cancelling of Parler, as well as for their seemingly excessive hardware requirements, is that Parler wants a shot at competing with Twitter for real, and has convinced their investors that is possible. The latest chaos must be one of the best free marketing anybody in their line of business could hope for.

If realDonaldTrump moves to Parler, and some popular republicans already have, that would potentially bring in a floodwave of new users, and risking that kind of business opportunity by having underpowered servers would be professional malpractice.

Parler is also likely to face months-long DDOS attacks.