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Python needs a version 4 to make a clean break

The tragedy of Python 3 is that they made the community go through a billion dollar migration but didn't tackle any of the hard stuff. And the reason they didn't was the Perl 6 debacle. So it's all Larry Wall's fault.

True but there is no way it would be implemented in such a half-assed way at any other big company (including pre-Musk Twitter).

Stuff like this makes it obvious that the people who are still there no longer give a fuck, they just do what they are told with the minimum effort required to collect the paycheck.

Grok 2 years ago

That grace period has long passed. If you are still there at this point you have made a choice.

(Removed "complicit" because I don't like the way that sounded)

IRC lost to Discord years ago.

A couple of years ago you'd have told me the exact same thing but with s/Discord/Slack/

IRC has "lost" many times before and yet it's still around while the previous "winners" are all gone or irrelevant. Even if Discord is tolerable today how long before it becomes terminally enshittified?

Tell me what happened your freenode?

It shat the bed, just like Twitter and Reddit did recently.

The huge difference is that with IRC we were able to painlessly hop over to libera.chat pretty much the same day while a lot of people are still struggling to leave the other two behind. I have learned my lesson, it's open services for anything important.

Yeah, it really is "destroy".

Let's say that you are the proud owner of a goose that lays golden eggs. "fixing" would be switching it to a different feed that might make it more productive, or it might make it sick. But this year the trend is to give it a few good kicks to see if that helps.

The existence of this HN thread and the situation we are discussing is a very clear sign of Reddit's incompetence. Regardless of what their motivation was they have fucked up the execution in a big way.

The painful lesson here is that nothing with the "you are the product" business model escapes enshittification. So I am not really interested in anything that's not community controlled.

Thankfully I've been making my home over at the Fediverse for the past few months so it's a lot easier to leave now than it would have been a year ago.

Yeah, it's not perfect but it's ours.

Even if it's sufficient why settle for that? We should take advantage of the best or most practical technologies available.

Most automobiles don't run on legs and airplanes are not flapping their wings either.

Internet in a Box 3 years ago

You arrive at the village. You've been separated from your family and you are desperate to get some kind of Internet access so that you can try to get in touch with them. Your phone still has 20% battery but no reception. You finally find a Wi-Fi hotspot! You connect... and it turns out to be one of these things instead of the real deal.

We are wildly off-topic here but I use a keyword filter to get rid of that stuff and the number of hits it gets is almost always in the 4-6 range, sometimes creeping up to 8. I still think that most of the noise is organic but the unrelenting consistency of it makes me wonder.

Twitter had reasonably healthy finances and steadily growing revenue. It turned profit in 2018 and 2019 and could have fully recovered from the 2020 slump within a few more quarters.

A change in leadership (never been a fan of Dorsey) and a refocus on core competencies could have given it a big boost - if it was planned and executed competently. But what we got with Musk is the exact opposite of that. The amount of fuckup is truly amazing to watch.