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My Caste 3 years ago

Race in the US is not a “socioeconomic tribe”. You said it yourself, it’s based on physical features. That’s not what a caste is.

I didn’t really mention any “inherent” qualities. Just pointed out facts that buttress an argument to increase immigration. The right wing loves to point out cultural discrepancies in minority populations they vilify but apparently pointing out effective culture is anathema.

I’m American. India is a country that has been growing at an average rate of 7% for more than two decades and has plenty of billion dollar unicorns and a strong culture of entrepreneurship. It’s the 3rd largest economy in the world by PPP, it just takes a couple of decades to recover from two centuries of outright looting.

My Caste 3 years ago

You’re right that it was more of a kshatriya revolt against the Brahmins but the Buddhists welcomed all castes, even the shudras. They did discriminate against anyone that wasn’t a part of the caste hierarchy- dalits.

My Caste 3 years ago

You’re a foreigner/outsider. You’re not part of the caste system. Brahmins are technically not even permitted to leave India. But if you’re white you would probably be treated very well, just wouldn’t be considered a part of society.

Vast destruction is almost never used because of the consequences and collateral damage. Surgical, cheap attacks would be used on an everyday basis. This is what makes it terrifying. It doesn’t even have to be murder, even surveillance would be the end of a way of life.

My Caste 3 years ago

I can go into great detail on the back and forth between Hinduism and Buddhism, mostly surviving as dueling literature for centuries. I would prefer you just look it up though.

My Caste 3 years ago

It mostly doesn’t. Historically there have been lots of mass conversions to other religions the first one being Buddhism in 600BC. Buddhism came about primarily as a response to Hindu orthodoxy and the caste system.

If nothing else then because it works. Immigrants have founded 51% of our top 500 billion+ unicorns. Indian entrepreneurs alone account for 66 out of 500. How many jobs is that creating? Millions at the very least. At 1% of the population, Indian immigrants pay 6% of all taxes. These people also will become/are American citizens.

You have to be a hardcore racist and/or an idiot to argue with data that overwhelming.

My Caste 3 years ago

There’s already a 30-50% quota in most public institutions that is very successful at giving lower castes an advantage. No bootstraps required.

Will those affirmative actions extend how long the caste system stays around? Probably but they’re meant to be in place for a couple of generations (40-80 years) which should be an acceptable amount of time to level the field.

My Caste 3 years ago

Semantics may not be the most helpful during a discussion of this but neither is application of modes/solutions learnt from other forms of bigotry. The best way to kill the caste system is to forget about it which is in the process of happening. It’s not further entrenching yourself in that identity that may be necessary in more superficial forms of bigotry.

My Caste 3 years ago

I guess that depends on your definition of racism. Can people from the UK be racist to the Polish? If yes, fine. But technically it’s different from racism and more nationally based bigotry.

My Caste 3 years ago

Even in the north, someone from Himachal Pradesh is not going to be able to identify someone’s caste in Bihar or West Bengal

My Caste 3 years ago

It doesn’t work like that. This isn’t like racism where differences are immediately superficially apparent. You need to have conversations bordering on light interrogations to determine who is what.

My Caste 3 years ago

Historically and culturally the higher castes are more educationally oriented so it wouldn’t be surprising. The caste system is rapidly breaking down but only for about the last generation. I presume it’s going to take time for representation within college professors being one of the most erudite fields. On the other hand, there is tremendous representation within the government, judges, police, teachers, civil servants, engineers etc. Modi the PM is an OBC, the president is also OBC. A very large number of politicians are from lower castes.

My Caste 3 years ago

Honestly I think this is majorly overblown. Having lived in both India and the US and being in my late 30s, I’ve never seen caste come up in any conversation even once. That’s tens of thousands of Indian people at the very least. Feels like this person is hyper aware of his caste and seems to take steps bordering on paranoia.

That’s step one. Then the other developing companies will need to climb the dependency tree to make more and more of the materials locally. It’s what India did with car manufacturing, eventually building the entire vehicle in country. They are now the biggest exporter of tractors in the world. Same thing with pharmaceutical manufacturing as well. The space industry was the same way with imported tech from the Soviet Union but now it’s all built indigenously along with local advancements.