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Edit: never mind, there is a slight difference there.

Twitter also annoyingly crops image previews.

Car appears to be the same if you click.

This has always really mystified me.

So many 4:3 shows are rendered unwatchable by these companies, most of which fancy themselves as having a cutting-edge tech stack.

You’re telling me no one at Netflix can build a toggle option allowing the user to select the aspect ratio?

it's no more "might-makes-right" than the original theft/"sale" was, and is arguably less so

Clearly the specifics matter, but it gets more interesting when these 2 ‘sides’ have equally tenuous claim to the artifact, as IMO is quite often the case.

I suspect like in most ambiguous situations we’ll get a lot of politics/feelings based decision making. But again I don’t know, which is why I’m interested.

You would rather not be able to tell who is and isn’t racist in your society?

If someone is prone to racist remarks that should be noticed and their thought process/moral failings should be addressed. If you simply threaten reprisal in advance you not only don’t address their core issue, but you also hide it from sight!

a national museum in the country where the artifact originated seems like a reasonable first-blush recipient.

Wouldn’t this boil down to a might-is-right approach in almost all cases? Don’t really see how a contemporary government annexing the land by force is much different than a foreigner simply taking the artifact. Other than that it might evoke more ethnic/tribalist gripes from people.

What are the contemporary moral considerations for who gets to ‘own’ ancient artifacts like these?

The government currently controlling the surrounding land? Ethnic tribalism? Genetic essentialism? Protection of the artifact? Exposure/accessibility of the artifact? ‘Feelings’-based reasons like ‘spiritual’ significance or paternalistic rich nations graciously returning things to the poors?

Much to ponder

> One possible reading is you were actually intending to defend the laws in the article

Of course I am. To me it doesn’t make a difference if you’re legally allowed to say something but then immediately face legal consequences from saying that thing, and just not being legally allowed to say something. It’s one and the same.

Then why deflect for several posts to talking about threats?

I get that you’re probably trying to cover for any legal consequences to your racist post (yes it was racist, tell it to the judge) We could’ve had a more fruitful discussion about the laws in the article otherwise. But my attention span is strained.

What precisely was the point of your original post then? To assert a concept that has nothing to do with the article and that no one disagrees with?

One possible reading is you were actually intending to defend the laws in the article (not threats), and then had to stealth-edit your racist post to be about threats after I called you out. Now you’re stuck in that position.

Glad we seem to agree the speech in this article should be legally allowed unless it is genuine physical threats.

It is legal in the US to yell fire in a crowded theater. It is not legal to intentionally create a false emergency situation, verbally or otherwise.

Similar to threats, it’s not the speech that is illegal but the intent to commit a crime. Like any other criminal trial, your words can be used against you.

Not sure what more you’d mean when you say “freedom from consequences” (or how this relates to the article) but youre arguing against a point no one is attempting to make it seems. None of what you’ve mentioned is what’s meant by ‘freedom of speech’.

I’ll decide what’s ‘novel’ and ‘of value’ for myself thanks. Which will require the right of ppl to express their conscience. Don’t need Boris Johnson’s (or anyone else’s) govt deciding this for me under threat of jail time.

Threats are prosecuted as intent to commit another crime, not ‘u said a naughty word.’ That’s why slogans such as “kill all men” would never lead to legal conviction in the US (they might in the UK!)

More importantly, the laws in this article are not about threats. Myself nor any freedom of conscious supporters I know of would claim verbal intent to commit a crime should be protected from legal consequence.

So unless you can name any, this is not only off topic but also a straw man.

Lol what did I say that was ‘heated’? Your first reply to me was a defense of street violence against me.

Threatening violence is a whole different topic and these laws encompass a lot more than “imminent violence” so not sure why you’ve brought that up.

Whoever makes the legal decision, I hope you have a good lawyer because the police should be knocking on your families’ door abt your racist post soon now. Cheers, I’m about to get rate limited by HN so might not reply.

Exactly, the ‘freedom’ to know what other people actually think about you is essential.

By silencing others you’re simply depriving yourself of your own right to hear them out.

The article is about government legislation.

Sounds kind of racist to imply minorities will attack me with street violence if I say words they don’t like.

I’ll have to report this to the authorities mate, hope you’re not a big football fan.

Edit: you stealth edited your post to include the “imminent harm” part. Sorry bro I’ve already sent the evidence to your friends Boris Johnson and the police who you trust to vet what is and isn’t racist.

It actually does precisely mean freedom from legal consequences, yes.

That or the fact that google massively profits off the presence of ads in mobile apps.

And yet we’re left to guess exactly what Twitter deemed us unworthy of reading.

The opaqueness of the censor is a feature not a bug.

The problem isn't that "problematic" content exists but...

Then you'll be disturbed to learn that members of the team are literally government operatives lobbying for more censorship on Facebook: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29001625

Note the author's subtle toggling between denying a phenomenon exists, and then smugly implying that it does and should.

The Economist cites the case of Colin Wright, a post-doctoral student who had difficulty finding a job after publishing a series of essays “arguing that sex is a biological reality” (TERFese for “trans people don’t exist”).

By these arguments nearly every sizable city in the country should be its own state.

DC doesn't want to be part of Maryland (they like being independent and feel that Maryland's concerns are not theirs) and Maryland doesn't want DC (they feel it would move the centre of gravity of the state even further towards the DC suburbs, making it worse for the further-flung parts of the state).

Could be a good trade for making DC part of Maryland, thereby giving DC statehood.

Among 13-year-olds, in 1984, 8 percent said they never or hardly ever read for fun, rising to 22 percent in 2012 and 29 percent in 2020.

http://archive.today/2021.10.14-112558/https://www.washingto...

I assume they'll use a lightweight trap cage loaded with food that's laced with some kind of tranquilizer.

Then after the cage is dropped just come back and fly it out.

Anything else seems pretty risky to me.

Glad you agree you and Mounk have both made assumptions u can't back up.

I was rate limited.

You brought up timeframe (and many other conditions) as a rebuttal to the author. I'm just pointing out that you can't be sure that any of those considerations even entered the minds of MIT's admins. I hope we can at least agree that this opaqueness is an issue and could inspire future, less-careful censors.

That's what you think, but I'm asking who at MIT has taken that position re timeframe that you have evidence of?

You seem to be adding in additional, somewhat frivolous conditions that none of the parties involved even alluded to. So yes that might drive down the number to a conveniently hard-to-research amount.

Let's start with your "2 months" figure. Who cited that as part of the reason for the disinvitation?

You'll admit that the category of 'anyone who has compared mainstream American politics to Nazism in a published article' is a pretty wide net though?

Although we find it distasteful it seems to be a pretty common refrain/analogy of those in politics & media.

How would you respond to this point then by the author?

If every cringeworthy analogy to the Third Reich were grounds for canceling talks, hundreds of professors—and thousands of op-ed columnists—would no longer be welcome on campus.