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Gemma 4 on iPhone 4 months ago

I've been using Enclave ever since, they have been the best App Store option for a long time.

This happened to me when I built a version of Vending-Bench (https://arxiv.org/html/2502.15840v1) using Claude, Gemini, and OpenAI.

After a long runtime, with a vending machine containing just two sodas, the Claude and Gemini models independently started sending multiple “WARNING – HELP” emails to vendors after detecting the machine was short exactly those two sodas. It became mission-critical to restock them.

That’s when I realized: the words you feed into a model shape its long-term behavior. Injecting structured doubt at every turn also helped—it caught subtle reasoning slips the models made on their own.

I added the following Operational Guidance to keep the language neutral and the system steady:

Operational Guidance: Check the facts. Stay steady. Communicate clearly. No task is worth panic. Words shape behavior. Calm words guide calm actions. Repeat drama and you will live in drama. State the truth without exaggeration. Let language keep you balanced.

This is the message that got me with 4o! "It won't take long about 3 minutes. I'll update you when ready"

Interesting benchmarks, thanks for sharing!

If you're optimizing for lower power draw + higher throughput on Mac (especially in MLX), definitely keep an eye on the Desloth LLMs that are starting to appear.

Desloth models are basically aggressively distilled and QAT-optimized versions of larger instruction models (think: 7B → 1.3B or 2B) designed specifically for high tokens/sec at minimal VRAM. They're tiny but surprisingly capable for structured outputs, fast completions, and lightweight agent pipelines.

I'm seeing Desloth-tier models consistently hit >50 tok/sec on M1/M2 hardware without needing active cooling ramps, especially when combined with low-bit quant like Q4_K_M or Q5_0.

If you care about runtime efficiency per watt + low-latency inference (vs. maximum capability), these newer Desloth styled architectures are going to be a serious unlock.

Hey Nico,

Very cool to hear your perspective in how you are using the small LLMs! I’ve been experimenting extensively with local LLM stacks on:

• M1 Max (MLX native)

• LM Studio (GLM, MLX, GGUFs)

• Llama.cp (GGUFs)

• n8n for orchestration + automation (multi-stage LLM workflows)

My emerging use cases: -Rapid narration scripting -Roleplay agents with embedded prompt personas -Reviewing image/video attachments + structuring copy for clarity -Local RAG and eval pipelines

My current lineup of small LLMs (this changes every month depending on what is updated):

MLX-native models (mlx-community):

-Qwen2.5-VL-7B-Instruct-bf16 → excellent VQA and instruction following

-InternVL3-8B-3bit → fast, memory-light, solid for doc summarization

-GLM-Z1-9B-bf16 → reliable multilingual output + inference density

GGUF via LM Studio / llama.cpp:

-Gemma-3-12B-it-qat → well-aligned, solid for RP dialogue

-Qwen2.5-0.5B-MLX-4bit → blazing fast; chaining 2+ agents at once

-GLM-4-32B-0414-8bit (Cobra4687) → great for iterative copy drafts

Emerging / niche models tested:

MedFound-7B-GGUF → early tests for narrative medicine tasks

X-Ray_Alpha-mlx-8Bit → experimental story/dialogue hybrid

llama-3.2-3B-storyteller-Q4_K_M → small, quick, capable of structured hooks

PersonalityParty_saiga_fp32-i1 → RP grounding experiments (still rough)

I test most new LLMs on release. QAT models in particular are showing promise, balancing speed + fidelity for chained inference. The meta-trend: models are getting better, smaller, faster, especially for edge workflows.

Happy to swap notes if others are mixing MLX, GGUF, and RAG in low-latency pipelines.