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Would love to hear Venkatesh Rao / Cal Newport discuss this at some point: https://contraptions.venkateshrao.com/p/against-waldenpondin...

Another related post: https://contraptions.venkateshrao.com/p/semicolon-shaped-peo...

From the second link:

Tenured professors with status in a discipline can tune out the world and do "deep work" peers recognize as "important" before it is done (with accompanying ivory-tower/angels-on-pinhead risks).

But a free agent, with no institutional safety net, no underwriting of exploratory expeditions by disciplinary consensus, and no research grants, cannot afford this luxury.

Another example that just sprang to mind. A headteacher I know reported safeguarding concerns when he was made aware that a 7 year old was walking to primary school alone. I suppose partly to do with leaving a paper trail in case the worst should happen - but the system then does kick in all the same. It's the same law that was originally designed to deal with far more serious incidents. (You could argue that this case wouldn't even qualify in many peoples' minds, but it's also not obvious to me that the headteacher was being irrational, given the law.)

I'll just throw in that I volunteer for an organisation that often deals with children, and in many ways safeguarding has been a disaster. I can totally see how good intentions following the 'Baby P'* case led to laws like this. But the reaction from many organisations has been to completely reorient themselves, and at all costs.

This is quite natural given that ultimately the law poses the greatest threat to the leaders of charities, schools etc. You really don't want a high profile failure on your watch.

When I was trained to lead shifts of volunteers, it stood out to me that the only instruction I received was in safeguarding...

My first thought was that something simply isn't quite right, since safeguarding is far newer than the organisation itself.

But actually I think this is just the way of things. If you have enormous punishments, then you will have commensurate reactions from management.

We've lost a large number of volunteers because we can no longer guarantee anonymity to young people. Initially we were reassured that we would only be expected to report things when identifying information was willingly given to us. This has since been revised to instructions that we are to actively seek such information.

The law itself was brought in following high profile instances of horrific abuse that went overlooked by social services. However, the scope of the law is surprisingly wide.

For instance, this would all apply to a 17-year-old who mentions that they were being bullied by peers.

I myself do feel conflicted - abuse is terrible, and it's worth tolerating other kinds of indirect harm to prevent. But it's still shocking to me that the second order consequences don't appear to get discussed at all in the public sphere. I do worry that this has been snuck in as a "Save The Puppies Act" without proper deliberation.

I'm unsure if there are other countries who have pretty much identical laws, or if it is just the UK?

* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Peter_Connelly

That was fast...

This is very useful! I'm surprised by how it seems an improvement over ChatGPT+ in many ways. Effectively instant responses for one thing.

Do you have any further plans for this? Is a light mode on the cards?