Simply brilliant! Thanks for the insight didn't think of this going back to the drawing board this week.
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nickjr
Nicholas Sheriff
I create web things...love golden oreos, & can't go an hour without my macbook pro. Oh um I run a cool startup called Jenple.
twitter: @nicholassheriff facebook: facebook.com/sheriffjr
Well that's your opinion and honestly it doesn't move me...you can scream holler around I'm still going to the bank. You sound like those little boys that keep saying justin bieber is a homosexual but he keeps selling cds it doesn't matter. I know I'm making what I'm making and I wanted advice on how to make the site more social and engaging to increase the revenue...haters like followers are abundant your a clone get off your couch and be a leader!
I also didn't say 400 and it's against googles tos to one post images of my account and state the exact revenue figures which I'm never going to do.
Really do fell bad for you but if I can leave you with anything my friend it's this. Listen to your data and really want to engage with it and test not just daily but in realtime and multiple times a day and tailor it to your needs...I challenge you to do so! Hoping your up to the challenge buddy just as I was.
Best of luck :)
Ha I like this guy :) you are the reason I get up in the morning! You let me know that I'm doing something right because you help balance the equation. Thanks mate...seriously thanks :D!
Hm I like the idea of the email this to a friend feature and yes the site gets tens of thousands of visits and my ctr and traffic is changing as I'm analyzing data. Also majority of major publishing sites do what I'm saying they just have a team and I don't! Only real major difference.
thanks for the comments & suggestions :) greatly appreciated. It can be constructive but build upon data just don't say your a poopoo face your lying blabla I want my mommy be an adult thanks Andrew for doing that and your figures are not 100% accurate but they are in that ballpark.
Major sites do what I'm saying guys they just have a team and I don't! Only real major diffrence. I never said I spent 25 a day on adwords I actually don't advertise the site using adwrds. I used adwords for testing I user various (more than one source) and spread out my campaign. Knowing this data took hundreds of dollars in testing and weeks. Again I don't use adwords I use various other methouds of buying traffic.
Your confusing Adwords with Adsense buddy.
Can't help you your suppose to laugh if you don't well then you don't find it humorous. I mean millions of people love family guy I think that show is moronic and dry.
To each his own your doing going to like everything that everyone else likes because your an individual nothing really to get buddy.
How does this negatively effect Googles market share?! If it does ok...damage control how sever is it...yeah it's said I know.
Use Reinvigorate bro I can't live without it!
This is the reason...because they don't have to! A company...excuse me a mammoth of Google size is not distracted and moved by little seemingly meaningless issues unless they get to a point that they have to address this issue.
If Google was a small startup that would have been the first thing they tacked to keep innovation & momentum charging forward and therefore gain traction and a larger userbase.
Also um what is karma: 54"?
I wasn't selling anything lol dude and um ok if you want to weight your spectacular insane ramblings about something you don't understand to clearly point out why Hack News sucks and isn't valuable to anyone anymore then fine. To each his own your not going to like a service that goes mainstream all of the time, no one forces you to come here and post...noone!
FIRST off this is me!
http://mashable.com/2008/02/19/gimado-funded/
http://mashable.com/2008/05/02/epic-fail-take-two-dorble-ris...
I also run these sites:
Nerrot.com Articleram.com Whipers.com Jenple.com Appiker.com to name a few!
I joined to post this as I've been a reader of Hacker News but not a member. So if a new user joins makes a post and it gets noticed their considered falsifying info? But if this wasn't helpful to you then ok that's your opinion to not be open minded and understand what I was offering and encouraging others to do. I wasn't selling anything.
I have mate and I have a direct number to my publisher manager. I have a different relationship with Google. It's more personal. I also reply on paid traffic because it will converts better for us both.
In the end this is exactly what the big boys do....just check out statistics of facebook for example running ads on Google Adwords or Techcrunch or even Sears.
for one thing I'm not done testing nor will I ever be I don't need tens of thousands of clicks now as I did initially.
It get's left hovering over the ad based on the amount of content wrapped on the page. Some sayings are larger and it's downward and goes with the flow of the content others are shorter and the ads shouldn't be placed the same way a longer sentence would.
Nothing in adsense TOS says that doing that is wrong.
As of right now no unfortunately but I might do a followup post showcasing some sketches/wireframes images.
Indeed but their isn't a person sitting behind a computer called the bounce rate reporter buddy...it's an algorithm and I used an algorithm as the foundation of my data analysis. So if bounce rates are normal but high for other publishers then everything is well.
Also what time of day are your users engaged on your site meaning clicking sharing links and ads, what users (age group & sex) are they...what colors do they prefer ads to be in and what day of the week should those changes be implemented.
If you can answer those questions in 5 minutes then I'm confused as to why your not making money even with 100 visits a day if you can't then...that's why my friend.
I can't give you my exact campaign that's wasn't what this was for :p and that will impact my company negatively if more people are knowledgeable of my exact methods of monetization via my data.
Stop worrying about my users mate...just do what I did looked at your data, worry about your userbase. Not going to elaborate on how insanely inaccurate alexa is but the site is very new so you can't look at my ranking at all I have sites getting 100,000 visits a day with a Alexa ranking of 120,000k and a site that gets 10,000 visits with an ranking of 50k. It's usually somewhat accurate after a few months and the ranking is below 10,000 other than that I don't look at Alexa at all.
Um the amount od negative clicks compared to the amount of positive clicks is very insignificant....every single publisher/advertiser of adsense (adwords) is well aware that their will be clicks with no conversions.
Well I've been with Google for 4 years and have some buddies of mine who work there and what your seeing is the front-end, am I encouraging you to click on ads? Nope the other pages don't do that either they just realized truths because of data analysis like: Users in india like the background to be green and the ad title to be pink but only on a time zone of +7 EST and on a Thursday and for only 9 hours.
We'll I didn't reveal my actual formula I'm using but I'm confident in my linear monetization scale for the simple fact that I've scaled several times already to get to $300 daily and it worked so far.
Started with $1, then $10, then $20 and now $25...going to test it out Wednesday-Thursday at $100 a day spent on advertising.
Ha yeah the userbase according to the data is 14-24 so if your over that you don't really even exist in our data. So yes this bright pink remote controlled pony isn't meant for you. Also the site is growing internationally/Europe so I have yet to see it's appeal in other nations so that could also play a part in your enjoyment.
I don't make sites just with my perspective as a developer in mind if I did that I'd change Google logo and the colors of Thisiswhyyourock would be green (my favorite color) I build based on data and the consensus that confirms what they want to be entertained with. I created the responses same way every single user on facebook doesn't have 5,000 friends It was and still is not my intention to please every user. Just the ones that enjoy the site lol
We'll yes their isn't much interaction in terms of GUI so your correct, I want to go from a more one sided design experience to a robust GUI for the updated version.
Thanks for your input.
I wen't from 120 to 5 and going to narrow it down to 3.
One for a high cAnC (what I call my Contextual Ad Niche Countries) Another for users of those countries that have a high SNP And another for traffic/engagement (ranking)
Well I've been with Google for 4 years and have some buddies of mine who work there and what your seeing is the front-end, am I encouraging you to click on ads? Nope the other pages don't do that either they just realized truths because of data analysis like: Users in india like the background to be green and the ad title to be pink but only on a time zone of +7 EST and on a Thursday and for only 9 hours.
It is I simply said "Before you click yes or no I'm not really who you think I am. I'm a dude...no not a chick with a penis! Focus here, clicking either button will share this link with your facebook friends. You've been warned and um you kinda rock too!"
Are you insinuating if I intentionally didn't place the adsense in a separate div with additional css settings and that the current implementation was intentional ad placement? Then yes it was intentional, you use a heatmap algorithm when building my gui's that shows me where attention is for starters so the data to move forward on it was a no brainier but how many pixels up etc impacted revenue by 15%! Still testing that element out.
You've got it all wrong I run over 15 other websites and using the same data on any of them isn't going to give me admirable results. Just as each human is complex so is each online iniative, sorry their is no magic pil so dig a data hole and keep digging.
Indeed he would
Thanks...adding other social network buttons would negatively affect the ctr of my facebook like this button and my users love facebook more than twitter like 93% of them! I listen to the data.
Also I only use Google text ads and the 1200 wasn't likes to go directly to the site it was pointing to another link for testing its virality.
I also own tiwyr.com might be re-branding it as such (for viral purposes...easy to pass along to friends than the insanely long url) not sure.