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Commenting from a shadowbanned account to say that opposition to LLMs is not tolerated on HackerNews.

If we didn't go far enough, let's make sure we don't make the same mistake with the bosses.

Kind of, really I'm saying that I've seen a lot of deep-stage AI addicts who seem much more impressionable and much less capable of independent thought than they were before they started using.

It's important to realize that those people are sociopaths. They delight in the suffering of the common man.

Also, just because they are very good at climbing the corporate ladder (which is a skill on its own), it doesn't necessarily translate to them particularly smart on fields beyond their expertise.

I couldn't agree more. Thank you for your comment!

He should ask Claude what it thinks

AI promotional strategies are profoundly and uniquely illiberal.

AI leaders are not interested in open debate and they have demonstrated this again and again.

Shouting this person down is the appropriate, humane response.

I agree. I think it's telling that AI leaders need to rely on fallacious reasoning and trickery to promote their product.

A good product should sell itself.

I feel that AI leaders have been shoving their product down our throats for the last two years (at least).

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if they were selling crack cocaine, he would say “young people need to learn how to use Crack Cocaine to be successful”.

There's nothing to learn, just some CEOs trying to get you hooked on their product and a bunch of hucksters trying to be the number one "AI thought leader"

If no one is hiring, connections or pedigree need to get extraordinarily elite before you can leverage them to get an entry-level software developer job.

AI (read: LLM technology) is the most powerful spam weapon ever invented.

The AI marketing scheme is to devalue the labor of incoming college graduates. The proof of the power of AI is the number of unemployed 20-something losers that middle aged Americans have in their basements.

I would boo him if I was there.

Didn't we just put millions of immigrants in concentration camps for stealing our jobs (1 job per immigrant)?

With that in mind, what should we do with the bosses who stole thousands of jobs each and shipped them to India and Poland?

The LLM marketing scheme has essentially been an assault on the labor value of these graduates. I don't think boos are far enough.

The only people who are really correct are the moderates.

"AI taking all the jobs" is going to result in some tech companies going down like the Titanic.

The Judge, the Justice System, and a potential prison sentence should factor into your concern in this situation.

Seems like it would help a lot, even if it wouldn't solve the issue.

I think we should forge ahead on trying reduce poverty, and I suspect that doing so would correlate with reductions in crime.

I see your point, you could be born to a wealthy deadbeat father and end up chasing a life of crime because you haven't seen anything better modeled for you.

It seems to me that poverty is more likely than anything else to cause those factors though.

My criticism of Quarrelsome is that, in my opinion, "It's your choice to be a slave" means "resist"; while "it's your choice to feel like a slave" means "accept it". I felt you were being too charitable to them.

That was my initial reaction too, I was just choosing to be charitable

What is?

Not particularly, what about you?

Justice is distinct from punishment. Someone who is wronged should be made whole, but I don't think society benefits from violating the violator.

Under what circumstances might "destruction of property" legitimately be classified as violence in your view?

I'm the person who said it, and I explained what I meant. Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm speaking from the perspective of an American worker. I feel that the relationship between capital and labor in the United States remains linked to slavery, even 150+ years after its formal abolition here.

I would disagree. I feel like typical Americans value freedom and privacy rights very highly.

I feel like you're trying to bait people into saying something that violates the site guidelines.

I think it's a fair comment in this case, given that the discussion is essentially about civil disobedience.

In other words, I think it's worth mentioning that the (former) slaves who took the underground railroad were breaking the law by doing so.

I'm not destroying anything, and based on the article it looks like they're handing out decent sentences to the people destroying the cameras. Surely no judge would appreciate someone running onto a taxpaying home owner's front porch and destroying their doorbell.

That being said, Ring cameras creep me out and I feel they have a powerful anti-social effect.