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Would you rather hire someone with an official degree from a community college or someone that attended a CS Academy and worked for three years?

obviously, one would eventually transfer from community college to a university

i'm actually not down voting you. However, other people are.

because we shouldn't encourage young boys gender equality?? you're dumb

years ago, diversity had almost nothing to do with women.

It was about underrepresented minorities such as Blacks, Latinos, etc..

It didn't really pertain to white women

okay. stop throwing a tantrum because you were wrong

You can't arbitrarily say that the line stops at one thing

I never said that or implied that. You misinterpreted. It makes zero sense to bring up rape when talking about this Google manifesto. I do think sexism and racism occur in the tech industry. However, not comparable in extremity to rape. This trivializes the experiences that rape victims actually do face. I'm not a moderator of course, so say what you want. But it makes your talking points looking appear ridiculous and nonsensical. Perhaps, your comments would be more relevant in the Binary Capital case.

$120k is San Fran could easily be a worse quality of life than $40k in Central America (too broad to say for certain).

this is the dumbest thing i've heard today. Stop exaggerating.

Many don't know their way around a UNIX environment and have never written code outside IntelliJ on a fancy macbook

i'm pretty sure you mean Windows. Developing on Windows is mostly driven by Wizards, IDEs, and other GUIs.

i'm always confused when people confuse males in tech as fratty. It makes zero sense. And it shows a lack of understanding in males. For the most part, guys who code for fun are more often the dungeons+dragon, sci-fi, and anime lover type of guys. Not the meatheads and backwards baseball cap guys associated with fratty.

That's like comparing the type of women who like sewing and knitting with sorority girls.

I think this whole claiming that being a victim as a self-fulfilling prophecy is flawed. It's hard to say a trans woman who's been murdered or raped had it coming.

wow, looks like things have escalated fast.

We've gone from Google employees who earn 100k+ salaries as software engineers to rape...

“She’s good for a woman, so even though she doesn’t do as well as that guy, she still gets the same scores because she’s in the women’s league.”

But it would still be viewed as sexist if the interviewers gave her lower scores. The only way not to be sexist is if you absolutely assess it right. Not too high and not too low.

(not saying the author is calling them sexist)

This a little bit of overlap, but I don't think there's significant overlap between gamers and software developers.

Writing code and playing a video are two very different experiences. Sure, you'll need to test the game, but testing games is not a fun time contrary to popular belief. And more important, the vast majority of software developers do not actually work in the video game industry. Most either work in systems development or make CRUD apps.

as far as i know, the forum part is not true. It was emailed internally to a bunch of people

for liberals, it reinforces preconceived notion in tech.

and also because the media has lots of power.

i've always noticed that there are more loner guys than loner girls.

i'm a guy and i don't enjoy video games any more. I just feel i've grown out of that phase when I was 15. I'd rather go swimming, hiking, and try out different restaurants/bars.

also doctors and lawyers already have 70+ hour weeks. They're too exhausted for any side projects. Easier to do that if you have a 40 hour week

The founders themselves often started programming as kids

i'm not sure where you get this conclusion that those who enjoy extracurricular programming often started as kids.

Usually those who started as a kid means they were fortunate enough to have parents who were programmers. Even if they're parents weren't that case, then usually its the case of just doing html/css on myspace

I kind of disagree with the gaming part.

I'm almost sure that most hardcore gamers actually never become part of the CS/SWE crowd because of video game addiction. Gaming and software development are two very different domains. Hardcore gamers usually are not motivated, accomplish very little, and lack in career development.

this is very dumb.

Facebook allows you to reconnect with old friends more easily or meet new people in person.

YouTube has some of the best resources to learn software development, math, history, and really anything for free.

There are pro's and con's for every company.

it's so complicated

fails to actually explain anything at all, except for saying "plz don't down vote me" and a bunch of random generalizations

and why would men at Google ask for raises while women at Google would not?

Obviously, both groups have competitive skills in the industry. I'm sure you will bring up the studies that men are more likely to negotiate. However, that applies for a more general population who work at middle tier roles at middle tier companies. People who work at Google have more bargaining power than the general population.

dynamic of personal choices and psychology is so complicated and so contingent to personal background and current state

So these women choose to have lower salaries even though they have the same qualifications/experience?

For Google, the rope was already dosed in kerosene. The guy who wrote the manifesto just lit the fire.