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Climate Clock 5 years ago

this must come as a huge transformative movement carried by many people

I believe governmental and industrial interest will follow the example set by these "many people". How do transformative movements start anyhow?

In order to arrive at "the change we need", we have to start somewhere.

We're facing the same general task... just have different ideas about how to approach it.

Wait for it to fall in your lap, or work for it.

Climate Clock 5 years ago

imo personal responsibility and lifestyle adjustments are just the kind of grassroots behavior that could lead humanity out of this. why wait for the industrial/capital machine to see the light and change course?

this approach, however, would have to be widely adopted and it may take generations. it's not a quick fix but i suspect it would be longer lasting, being built on a societal foundation of healty eco-habits.

Depends on your perspective I suppose. As I see it, starting over is a opportunity to try again, this time with all the knowledge you lacked the first time around. You may still encounter many of the pitfalls of the first iteration, but this time, you'll have the advantage of experience.

You could argue that if the system naturally permits this kind of behavior (insider trading), that there is something fundamentally wrong with the system itself. Judicial band-aids are effective in their own way but they don't get to the heart of the issue.

One might argue that there is plenty of human feeling in this bot-art. After all, it's trained on art with human feelings. Seems like it might be a very effective way to propagate it. It's a sort-of dispassionate third party who finds the thread common to all of the cubist pieces in the training sets.

I'm trying to explain this stuff to my kids, but the simple truth is they are cognitively capable of getting hooked by this stuff years before they are cognitively capable of understanding the analysis, and then it's another few years of brain development after that when mere intellectual comprehension of what is being fired at them can be transformed into concrete actions to defend themselves.

Don't be too hasty to sell the young-uns short. Just the other day my 9yo was remarking about how addictive his youtube feed is and voluntarily declared that he just has to cut it off at some point in order to do things that he needs to do. I was gobsmacked. Maybe when they grow up with this stuff constantly in their faces, they have a better chance at learning how to deal with it in a healthy way.

Pretty much anything you could ever want in Minecraft you can get for free (perhaps with the assistance of mods). From what little time I've spent playing Fortnite, it seems much more narrowly-scoped and frankly, pretty boring. I'm not even sure why they're being compared here; they're very different games.

I think it's easier to be a jerk online so it's more prevalent here but, in my opinion, the ways in which people weasel out of their conversational responsibilities are no different than most in-person encounters of the same nature. If I care enough about the person or the cause, it might make sense to stick around and hold their hand. It does get tiresome.