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It's there, just not out in the open.

1. Go to a web page 2. Click the "tabs" button in the bottom right corner 3. Press the "i" icon on the tab 4. Press the security circle for even more info

And you got a full page reload for your troubles. That was the point. Had you enabled js, you'd get the better user experience, by not having to do that roundtrip. You might not care if you're at your desktop on a fat pipe, but performance and user experience matters. Speed matters.

JS isn't there to replace hypermedia. It's there to give you a better user experience by augmenting what plain hypermedia can do. You can argue that many authors are doing a bad job of it, but that's a different discussion. Baby, bathwater, etc.

To take a trivial example: If HN didn't use js, an upvote would mean a server roundtrip and a payload of 50k or more for popular discussions. So mobile users get shafted. Crappy hotel wifi users get shafted. You are forced to update all discussion threads, even one you might be in the middle of, just to upvote. Basically, your experience is made worse.

And this is about the simplest use of JS I can think of. For other sites there are great opportunities to make your user experience better.

> A dollar at the margin for a person with a $600 phone on a $50/mo data contract is not an enormous gamble

It's not a big economic gamble, but there are good chances of getting screwed, which is more important than the money. I believe that's contributing to the prices being pushed down. I don't mind paying for the software I like, but I absolutely mind paying to try out 4 other apps that turned out that sucked. Indeed, because I had to give them money to find out, they will have the funds to keep on sucking. Effectively, I can't vote with my wallet.

Try shopping for an ssh client or a vnc client in the app store. I suspect you'll have that exact experience.