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At the U of MN? Say it ain't so. My proud alma mater. Hacking linux kernel. Round up. Someone should start a list of what tax dollars pay for.

Thanks, yes, I talked with their new director about a month ago about hiring some of their people. Lin I believe. If you're Lin you might know who I am. Small newish program (~30 admissions per year) with TC presence but turning out people with actual skills.

Put yourself in my shoes. It's great that my kid got some college credit in high school but MN is not a great place to raise a family anymore nor is it safe or .... "Quality of life" isn't really a thing like it was.

And you see this from all sort of people here. Lots of people who grew up here are sick of it and want to leave or are in process of leaving.

For where I'm not sure.

They use Common App. Here's the requirements: https://admissions.tc.umn.edu/apply/application-checklist/ap... Yeppers. Insane in the membrane. Now surf their site and see if you can find merit scholarships. That's a fun one too.

Thank you

I have no idea. And the weird thing in MN is that a lot of kids go to U of MN. There are probably 5 topish districts in Twin Cities. The one my son is in sends dozens of kids to U of MN. His high school pushes AP, IB, and another special program aimed at business education. They also don't frown on PSEO (FT college while in high school). That's like 4 programs you take to get ahead on college credits. They're all weighted and all aimed at kids wanting to go to college. Lots of districts do this and weight the grades to make it fair for the kids trying the hard stuff. The "poorer" district I grew up in even has IB and they weighted grades 35 years ago. Very common here.

How many kids are getting a 4.0 GPA? Lots. How many valedictorians are there in a class? 1 or 50? I think 50. Maybe it's grade inflation.

So maybe if you are in a good school with lots of programs make sure you just phone it in for 4 years if you want to make sure you get in.

Testify.

...and it was $16k for a 4-year degree. How long does it take to make $16k now? For a mid-range programmer? Only several months.

It's a good school but hard to stomach outstate tuition value prop. The "disaster" is having all your choices arbitrarily removed in spite of everything you did to succeed. Let's agree that's some BS.

Make it so! Those words?!

Thanks for the kind words. Usually it works out in the end or to some sort of state where you can look back without regret. Lessons in grit for sure.

Yes, I agree 100%. Have hired several people from hands on CC here in MN.

THanks, he reminded me tonight that he scored 35 _twice_. LOL. I kinda suggested to him he try for perfect like his best buddy. Best buddy is accepted at Ivy school (but probably will not go due to cost from what he said).

This admission statement is wrong. See source in original comment. U of MN TC accepted 20% last year and 20% this year. Kinda nuts. It's possible that the 70% number you cite is for MN State system which is like a parallel CC and university system. They are good too though.

THanks for your other comments though. Appreciated.

Thanks for the thoughtful suggestions. We're mainly pissed and disgusted. Appreciate your comment though. He's an optimistic person by nature so he's already moved on.

Wrong. https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-... 36 = 4,100 students 35 = 12,000 students

Slightly less than 50k.

UMN app has no essay or anything like that. Your disbelief is your intuition which is that something here is wrong.

In the words of Principal Skinner, "It must be the children."

Yes, we blame others because we failed to work hard and get good grades and the world has it out for us. Woah is us. DiD I dO tHiS rIgHt?

Amen.

I have no idea why you're replying this with a question like this. You should read the MIT blog at the top of this forum and then return without the trolling.

If you're saying I should prove that my son is on a math team and has asian friends who are going to the University of Minnesota with similar test scores and GPA? Yeah, I'll get right on that.

dick comment

And young people on here imagine having 2 children 2 years apart. One of them doesn't get to go to college because of covid and the other doesn't get to go because ability didn't matter for a year.

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I hope this never happens to your kids. Beware of being penalized for trying. Is that a lesson you will teach your kids?

I'm not "bummed". Read my post with anger.

U of MN was not his first choice. It was _fallback_.

Try on some shoes.... Imagine putting 30 years of high taxes into a state as a high earner and business owner (that's me). Then imagine that your almamater doesn't accept your kid when your kid is, in fact, a lot smarter than you and has accomplished a lot more than you did by his age.

Then imagine being that kid and being taught by the State that, while you are in the top 95th (99th) percentile nationally on test scores there's just something not right about you. Is it your GPA? It can't be. You're on the A honor roll every time.

In the end you'll never know and that is fine because the school you might have attended has changed into something it was never intended to be.

Land grant university or something else? The Great Emancipator rolls in his grave.

On the plus side the U of MN gets billions of dollars in state funding and keeps the washout money too. Win-win.

No, but I'm sure some of the kids on his math team will be in the same boat even through they're mainly South Asian and Chinese. Backlash against them too it seems.

Feelings and "demographics" and surnames.

Off topic. Doesn't apply. However, yes, when we started saving it was MN schools only. I don't know what the rules are now. Remember, we're talking about something from 20 years ago.

He applied to [redacted] State, Rice, UNC, Duke, and U of MN - Twin Cities. Accepted at [redacted] State (they have a formula for everyone). He also got their highest out of state "scholarship" - which is more like a break on out of state tuition - no reciprocity with MN. No word from Duke yet but that probably won't happen either.

Complete disaster for his future and really a shot to his otherwise happy and optimistic life. He's really upset as are we all.

My son found out 2 days ago he didn't get accepted to his in-state land grant public university. The University of Minnesota. This was his fall back plan. Now he's screwed and may not be able to start college in fall.

His sins: - a 35 ACT score (legit with no studying or ACT prep classes) - a 3.8 weighted GPA (because he took multiple AP classes and actually was in college for his junior and senior years through Minnesota's PSEO program) - leader on robotics team - lettered in 2 extra curriculars - etc etc

Why? Because U of MN doesn't consider weighted grades nor do they accept test scores anymore. So why even try hard?

The only upside is that we weren't stupid enough to put his college savings in a 529 tied to MN. We would be superscrewed if we'd done that.

35,000 applicants. 7,000 freshman admissions. My kid not even in top 1/5 of applicaents? Complete BS.

EDITs: 2021 UMN Twin Cities admission stats: https://admissions.tc.umn.edu/competitive-admission-rate (20%)

MN 529 plan 20 years ago was MN-only from what I remember. Honestly don't care.

[redacted] is "okay" school for CSci. However they have a 120MM budget and are facing 15MM shortfall for the college that hosts it. Out of state tuition for this school is 20k per year with max scholarships.