Alongside a slew of other things you really, really don’t want.
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What’s that line about vegetarians? Like how do you know if someone’s a vegetarian? They’ll tell you. This, but Rust.
This ship has sailed.
This is AI-maxing bleeding into everything. “Make me a great conference presentation”, and this is roughly what you get. AI-nshittification writ large. It’s sad to watch.
Herein lies the seeds of the Revolution that is being fomented by the very class of educators, speakers, and generationally privileged who exhibit casual, naive contempt for the audience they drone on their tone-deaf sermons, utterly oblivious to the toxic duplicity of the messages they shove down throats of those who bear the worst of the costs externalised by those spreading “the good word”. They can all burn.
Hey bro I heard you like skills so I put a skill in your oh whatever
Yours is a “God of the gaps” argument. You will remain technically correct (the best kind of correct!) long after the statistical machine has subsumed your practical argument, context limit and all.
If this is true, then you'd have to conclude that AI is coming for everything.
Now you’re getting it
Perhaps more accurately they’re worth what it costs YOU in legal fees to defend them coming after you. Those are real dollars you still have to spend.
You better mean “hiking” as in through the metaverse forest strapped into your corporate-sponsored VR headset, because outside time is for citizens only, friend.
How many hours does it take AWS to clear $100M in free cash flow?
It’s not the whimsy. It’s that the whimsy is laced with casual disdain, a touch too much “let me buy you a stick of gum and show you how to chew it”, a frustrated tenor never stated but dog whistled “you dumb fucks”. A soft sharp stink of someone very smart shoving that fact in your face as they evangelise “the obvious truth” you’re too stupid to see.
And maybe he’s even right. But the reaction is to the flavour of chip on the shoulder delivery mixed into an otherwise fun piece.
Slop.
I have zero doubt Claude is going to do what AI does and plough forward. Emails will get sent, recommendations made, stuff done.
And it will be slop. Worse than what it does with code, the outcomes of which are highly correlated with the expertise of the user past a certain point.
Seth wins his point. AI can, via humans giving it permission to do things, affect the world. So can my chaos monkey random script.
Fred should have qualified: _usefully_ affect the world. Deliver a margin of Utility.
We’re miles off that high bar.
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Two whole projects. A stampede.
Vie(t)nam
Only after exhausting every other avenue
AI creates the most spectacular happy path demos. It’s hard not to extrapolate to infinity when you see it.
Don’t bother with this if you want to get promoted. Others have discussed this in thread and are right. If you build beautiful, simplified abstractions, your skill will be taken for granted as these interfaces appear obvious once discovered (by virtue of their proximity to truth, incredibly difficult to create, easy to verify). If you are in even a reasonably large org, go the other way. Be an Architecture astronaut. Build complex, clever stuff that is deliberately high cognitive load. Get your bus-factor as close to one as possible. Go the other way only if your comp is directly tied to company performance.
The doom loop Gemini gets into is genuinely unpleasant to read.
“I’m so stupid. I should be ashamed of myself. I’m such a loser. Idiot, idiot. Oh god I suck. I’m an embarrassment.”
The torture Google must RL on this model, man.
Really useful comment thanks. Reminder that LLMs aren’t just for coding.
This generalises to “Agents respond well to red/green feedback loops”.
Doesn’t this all go to shit if they can’t flip into a for profit by December? Tons of cash commitments are tied to that far-from-finalised outcome.
This guy gets it. +1
I used to consult on this type of thing. I’m not entirely convinced this is what’s happening here but it’s close enough, and is a well trod playbook - dress up the mundane in theatre and performance, create a taxonomy that’s specific to you, then sell access to the thing.
Next step is to try flood the SEO zone with your thing. It’s great if you can piggyback other key terms (deep *, agents) and.. I’m already bored writing this up it’s so [what’s the word for sheer resigned exhaustion at the capitalist corporate soul kill that is this type of work]
At full pace that means 62 mins until you hit the daily cap.
Bait and switched their FAQ after the fact too. Come on Cerebras, it’s only VC money you’re burning here in the first place, let’s see some commitment to winning market share. :money: :fire:
Your “one enter” press might generate dozens or even hundreds of messages in an agent. Every file read, re-read, read a bit more, edit, whoops re-edit, ls, grep, etc etc counts as a message.
Yup. If you’ve ever watched a 60+ minute agent loop spawning sub agents, your “one message” prompt leaves you several hundred messages in the hole.
You’re absolutely right!
That study is going to go down as the red herring it is. Shows little more than people with minimal experience using LLMs for dev do it wrong.