Someone at moz is getting a raise for getting this POS spam on here.
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In my day a framework was a major piece of generic software used to deploy databases, large scale data flow and service millions of reequests per minute.
These days you write a fucking preprocessed CSS file, a few JS helper functions and it's a framework.
Even if the only purpose is to propagate absurdly naive and ineffective ideas?
What, google and apple "fighting" the US Government they've gladly been cooperating with since forever???
Why doesn't Schneier call them out for what these corporations really are, government snitches? What makes Schneier think any of these companies want to do what's "moral"??
This article is one of the most naive pieces I've ever read. It parts on the principle that these companies want to do what's moral, but the government is keeping them from doing it. That is absurd.
Google, Apple and friends have been willingly cooperating with the government in exchange for perks, for immunity against FTC probes and so on. They're NOT gonna "fight" because they have nothing to fight against.
What makes you think any of those companies want that?
They're happy where they are. Profits are good. This article is one of the most naive pieces I've ever read.
What do Google, apple, etc want now? For this subject to go away and so that their big mass of users forget about it, that is what they want.
AMD is probably cooperating with the government on the same level as Intel.
It is really, really hard for me to see this as anything other than utter paranoia.
It is really really hard for me to imagine Intel not beeing 100% cooperative with the NSA.
Google better go back to basics.
They need to work on real honest not ad-driven search again.
Search quality is dwindling(I don't need 2 billion amazon and ebay listings on search results, Google!).
Months ago when I used duckduckgo I'd bounce right back to Google. Today I can use DDG without regrets.
Thanks Google, for investing on the best web browser out there!
Fucking Google is manipulating these threads, trying to white wash their secret spying deals.
Don't fall for this bullshit, Google has been in the spying business for ages now. They joined the NSA program in 2009 and have been in trouble constantly in every spy scandal there is some google product involved. Wake up already.
Google fanboys make this discussion hard to take seriously.
Google was caught pants down spying on everyone, stop trying to white wash it.
We have enough information for an informed decision now, thanks to Edward Snowden.
The leaked slides say clearly the government can query the servers at will. They get real time login data, logout data and payload data.
I don't know why people keep putting this into question, giving Google the benefit of the doubt, when they were caught pants down, no questions asked.
If the companies mentioned in the slides just complied with the law, why would they be singled out in those slides? Honoring search warrants and FISA requests is an obligation, not an extra.
The reason Google was singled out as a partner since 2009 is because they gave the government full unrestricted access.
I recommend everyone have a look at the leaked documents and the extent to which all those companies participated in it and then judge their public relations reactions afterwards.
After the scandal was revealed, and only after it was revealed in an unprecedented act by Snowden, did Google come out in favor of their customers. This is ridiculous.
Google was caught pants down and there's no amount of PR bullshit they can use to white wash this and pretend the government forced them to do it. They willingly participated in exchange for political status with the government, that is the raw truth.
Warning: this article does not present any evidence.
Schneier is a great cryptologist, I've read his books, I've carried them around, I'm a big fan of his work.
BUT.
He's seriously lagging behind in his coverage of this scandal, it's like he's just reposting what others have already said and often stating the obvious.
So the NSA has the capability to store voice? No, really? Like since 1940????
Sorry, Bruce, but this article is shit.
My guess is more people liked you when you were just a hacker that almost got in Bradley Manning's shoes.
Well this is 100% bullshit
Chrome is the most invasive piece of spyware you could ever install.
Unless you turn off some 10 or more options, it literally phones back your entire online activity, in or out of incognito mode, in or out of any google service.
Everyone was ok with google's tracking for ads and commercial purposes, even though it felt kinda weird, we had a feelign it wasn't evil somehow.
Now I can't even look at Google anymore, they're like a spouse that cheated on you. You knew the spouse may have been watching you, but at least they weren't fucking with someone else while you trusted them.
That makes two of us. While lots of people say "well Google won't miss you", I think we still have the duty to do what's right.
The USA was founded as the most free, exemplary democracy in history and what we saw in this scandal is precisely the opposite of what this Nation earned so Google could exist. Then Google betrayed us all and was in bed with the government in the most sinister way possible since 2009.
Honestly? I'd rather give someone else a chance. Then if DuckDuckGo spies on us in the future, I'll switch again.
Google wasn't passively spied on via a beam splitter or whatever you call it.
They were doing the spying and actively sending the data out.
Using DuckDuckGo in Chrome is like asking for privacy while walking around naked in Times Square. Chrome has 100% unrestricted access to anything your user can access on your PC, no matter what search engine you choose.
Looks like he's not the only one with an adjective that rhymes with patriot.
There is a lot of confusion around this topic so let's get something out of the way: none of the companies mentioned in the leak were served ANY search warrants.
The participating companies were active participants in the spying scheme using the Patriot Act and FISA requests, not search warrants.
The WWW desperately needs a free and open search engine that everyone can hold accountable. The WWW is much too valuable to hand over to a company with blatant conflicts of interest in their search results.
I thought it was pretty interesting the first three times this was posted.
I used to think it was ethically questionable to add cameras and trackers to wild animals just so we could investigate their habits. Now human animals are doing this to themselves voluntarily.
I thought I had produced the worst shit there ever was on the WWW and no...I had to come second place to this piece of shit.
We should probably realize that the government will find a way to either:
1) Embed itself firmly into the bitcoin process and siphon cash for the bankers who run the government or 2) destroy bitcoin if it's so secure it can run without a government.
All the time you "save" with this sort of bullshit diet will be spent in a hospital sooner than later.
You need your fucking vegetables, you need fruit, you need to chew and you need to sleep. It's as simple as that.
Ever since I started taking online courses(edX,coursera,udacity) my knowledge improved immensely. I am excited to get home from work and watch the classes and try the homeworks.
I think this may be the most revolutionary technology to come out of the USA since computers themselves: extremely high quality distance learning.
Educating the masses is the most difficult mission in history and these courses do the job. I guarantee you that if you take Coursera, edX and Udacity courses you will see the world differently.