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> I meant it in its fullest form, i.e. serious people.
Is academia serious enough? Well ever since LLM journals' inboxes are bombarded with submissions, and this applies across fields. Like OP said, ppl serious or not are asking LLM about any stuff, also serious or not.
Doesn't this apply to China in the first place? Their GFW practically blocked such choices for decades already.
Why not South Korea? Even ethnic Koreans in China go to South Korea en mass.
You'd pay several hundred percents more
Sounds impressive in relative terms but not quite so in absolute terms, because PCB is dirty cheap so 100% is just $10-$20.
it's not unreasonable to expect them to deliver higher and more consistent quality than home fabs.
Actually it is the opposite, OshPark quality is consistently higher than JLC for years. Chinese manufacturers can do Apple products but also Temu craps, so don't get your hopes high. The only reasonable expectation is being cheap reduces quality.
Technically yes, but the ways US and China treat foreigners are at two extremes.
As long as you are invited and keep your mouth shut about ccp, China does not care about papers. One famous example is an athlete, when questioned about nationality after winning an Olympic gold medal for China, publicly claimed that I am Chinese when I am in China, and American when I am in the US.
paint China as a good alternative.
I don't think OP is doing this, just stating the obvious. The invitation implies $$$ but not naturalization.
If you want to live in a country, you might want to actually be a citizen of that country. Does that need explaining?
Yeah might, so it is big question depending on the situation, and even bigger once you got more passports or permanent residence. For example people intentionally avoid US permanent residence or citizenship for global taxation.
Are you seriously suggesting that people can literally just not engage at all with the society they live in?
All the time, especially the US expats in China. They tend to live in nice communities for foreigners in a few tier-1 cities, they go to western style international hospitals and their kids goes to fancy international schools. Basically employers have everything prepared nicely for them, hence the contrast of China between foreigners and citizens.
In terms of racism in China or east Asia as a whole, there is practically no problem for white ppl, small problem for indians, big problem for blacks.
In the reverse direction in the US there are Chinese/Latino spending their lives in their own ethnic community without speaking English at all, it is not that uncommon, just invisible.
It has nothing to do with loopholes on anything.
Not sure about India but delivery in China has everything to do with loopholes.
No health care and social security for most, and for the few who have the company artificially fake income for tax evasion.
Working conditions are the usual 12~14 hours a day with 2~4 days off a month.
The electric bike they are riding are dangerously over-limits and categorizes as motorcycles, which are actually banned in most big cities. Of the few that allow it, Shanghai for example, you need to pay ~$70k for registration alone.
In the US the situation is better but not free from problems, for example the first job for a lot of the illegal immigrants who can not speak English is package sorting with similar working schedule, but at least it pays good enough.
The textbook poverty which are created by such organization itself with strategic planning and a controlled economy in the first place, killing ~30 million. All the more impressive it only took them under 10 years.
This actually applies to the US as well. Anytime you need to send $1k+ to a stranger the process is a pain in the ass.
ACH, most bank does not allow send to stranger, and it takes 1~3 days for settlement among those which allow.
Wire, expensive ~$30 per transaction.
Paypal/Venmo/CashApp, Schrödinger's fraud trigger you never know it's gonna work or not. Plus they report to IRS so more paperwork during tax season.
A lot of banks report every transaction of your checking account to credit bureaus.
So stable coin is my preferred way, and luckily among my circle it is widely accepted. Any amount is instant with a few cents fee at most.
Not only this, it also enables sneaker/pokemon/5090 scalping, Chinese/Russian using ChatGPT/Claude. A residential IP in the US is very valuable elsewhere.
Yep this is the right answer, address jigging is the oldest trick in botting. Nowadays with fingerprint browser, generated credit card number and residential proxy, it is very hard to tell legit buyers from scalpers.
Your reply already shows the difference. In US you have the default expectation of privacy, until the feds get their eyes on you. Meanwhile in China the default expectation is no privacy, exactly as OP argued.
This system in action is best demonstrated during the lock-down period of COVID, when any random dude who contracted the virus would immediately have their personal life for the previous week/month published nationwide to the hour, and those who have overlap will immediately get a 14 day lock-down at home.
I have not seen surveillance done with such ease and breath elsewhere. And local PD already have access to such info, and there are scandals where police sell such info for profit.
By which it is implied such trips are obviously non-starters for foreign students. This is the most evident during Thanksgiving and Christmas when most undergrad students in the US reunion with their family and friends.
Well why Americans are not willing to take those PhD offers that pay barely above poverty line for 5 years or so? The answer is obvious, they would rather take a job in industry that pays miles better.
There is really no reason to be resentful because it is a voluntary choice, and foreign students are worse off in every aspect to start with. Leaving friends & family behind, travel often involves long-haul flights, different culture to blend in, not eligible for NSF grants and national lab jobs, etc.
Situation is really similar to H1B workers discussed here a while ago. The options for Americans are plenty while for foreigners very scarce, and with the recent change it is getting even more so without giving Americans a bigger incentive, so it is really a lose-lose outcome.
Not is but the obvious one was COVID policy during 2020-2022. It triggered the closest thing to a domestic unrest you can get in China after 1989, a large exodus of middle class, and an almost 50% crash in their real estate market. The last one is very deadly and still ongoing because that is how China financed its growth for decades.
Any source? In my field US Citizens and permanent residents are actually preferred for at least two reasons, first they are eligible for graduate grants like NSF so they are not using department's money; second upon graduation they are eligible for more jobs because places like national labs do not hire foreigners.
Because no one in their right mind will work the Chinese 996-esque schedule in the 21st century, except the Chinese?
They are actually importing Chinese workers to their Brazil factory, leading to the slave labor expose by Brazilian authorities [0]. They have the same trouble recruiting in Thailand, where workers have functioning unions and enjoy modern working rights, instead of 19th-early 20th century Industrial Revolution type stuff.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Brazil_working_conditions_...
I wonder what will happen to Chinese employees of Anthropic/OpenAI/Google Gemini? Given the ubiquitous Chinese names in AI papers there must be quite a few.
They probably have gotten their PR or in the process, but naturalization requires five years after that, so there must be some still not citizen yet.
huge emphasis on sharing knowledge
developer forums in China
Care to share a few such forums or websites, genuinely curious as someone who reads basic Chinese.
A decade ago, I knew there were CSDN, jvjin (may not be the correct pinyin) where people talked about tech. Nowadays they have just become SEO farms like the rest of the internet.
Actually there are very few Chinese forums left, because it is a huge hustle to run one, and the same rule applies to the comment section of any personal blogs.
Right now pretty much the only one left with a bit discussion is v2ex, but it's blocked by gfw and kinda becoming a ranting corner for programmers. Some also recommend nodeseek and a couple other new sites, where you can find shady stuff but not tech stuff. Then you have tech blogs of big corps, or personal ones, but still not many quality tech posts. There are also some on WeChat but it's kinda cumbersome to use so I stopped.
More likely related to the slave labor in their Brazil factory [0].
I personally will not buy any Chinese EV until they fix stuff like this.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Brazil_working_conditions_...
I mean worst come to worst you can drive Uber full time until the market recovers? And this is certainly not an option for H1B.
Unless Americans does not want this type of job, which actually validates your cynical interpretation of OP's comment. Meanwhile a lot of illegal immigrants are happily driving for Uber and plenty more will be if they can do it legally.
All I am saying is foreigners' experience does not necessarily reflect that of citizens, just like in the US the current ICE raids and immigration visa tighten up does not affect most citizens, but changed many foreigners' life forever.
I pick the previous linked case because what he did is exactly what you did, and I am not arguing for general law enforcement.
I go to major expos in China multiple times a year, and the volunteers are there, every time. You can find advertisements for sim cards, vpn services not only at airports, but also hotels, etc.
The way Chinese and US treat foreigners are at two extremes. Simply from your example,
didn't register our accommodation which is mandatory
> Foreigner: just let us go on our trip anyway
> Citizen: sent to detention and beaten to death [0]. Reverse ICE?
Police is friendly and laid back for foreigners, in China there are even foreigners advertising to call the police for you if you lost something, simply because police will be more responsible if a foreigner is involved. And they are also more flexible like your experience shows, which does not apply to citizens.
There are more examples, like gfw, for foreigner there are even volunteers at major airports helping you install VPN, while for citizens you can get fined or warned with an official record in your dossier.
Or like COVID you mentioned, during the lock-down period foreigners have prioritized access to foods and necessities. One extreme case I remember is a wealthy couple in Shanghai ran out of those things. And how did they get through? They happened to hire a Philippine nanny at the time, and that gives them priority, despite not officially registered like you. Imagine your gov prioritize your servant over you.
Ah my bad, my brain was reading Snail House [0], a popular fiction that got adapted to an even popular tv series and its theme is on living in Chinese apartments.
While nail house is the Chinese version of holdout [1], and it exists everywhere. In China it is never regarded positively but always linked with forced eviction [2]. The eminent domain rule requires market rate compensation, which is not possible in many cases because of state ownership and the dual rural-urban land system. It is basically how China financed its growth for around three decades, get rural lands paying out penny, then sell it to some developer for a fortune.
For the land use right duration I believe it has always been 70 yrs [3]? Renewal or not is not a big problem right now, because real estate took off in the 90s, so we still have four decades to go and see.
For foreigner China can be a bit on the rosier side, because of their subtle reverse-racism? Like in universities the dorm for international students is better than the domestic ones, and where expats live is usually a nicer part of the town. Nevertheless, among my Chinese colleagues one the top reasons for immigrating to US is always better and cheaper housing. A couple years back I was surprised to learn that a modest ~700 sqft apartment in Shanghai or Peking easily went for $1M! Since then they had an almost 50% crash post covid but still, impressive.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwelling_Narrowness
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holdout_(real_estate)
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_requisition_in_China
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_law_in_China#Obtainin...
nail house term was invented in China after all
I do not see how this is related to property rights? In urban China you do not own your home, it is a 70yr right to use the land.
Some of their construction is good, but not private homes. Because you do not own the land, the quality of your home is up to the developer, who basically follows no code and cheapens out on everything. Also the Chinese code is very loosely implemented, for it lacks basic insulation and ventilation to start with, let alone modern airtightness.
Anyone grew up in sfh like those in the US will not like to live in Chinese nail houses.
Yep I would rank Japanese QoL higher than US or Canada. Skin color aside, they can even be xenophobic to second gen Japanese born overseas like Brazil.
Living space is quite good and affordable by Asian standards, you either live in mansion which is basically fancy apartments, or ikkodate which is single family home, albeit smaller than those in north america.
This has also been covered by Chris Brunet [0].
All I can say is academia hiring is a dumpster fire right now.
[0] https://www.chrisbrunet.com/p/exclusive-chinese-american-pro...
What you said is true, but it pertains to how to balance the game once it started, while I was giving a explanation why the game is started in the first place.
consider what consistently giving away seats for free would do to the remaining paid seats
After all those years it is still fairly niche because few people knew about how it actually works, and it took quite a bit of learning, with dedicated forum [0] existing for decades. It shows even in this thread, and I would rank hn ppl very tech-savvy. Also the award seats are not given out free, since airlines got paid when they sold miles to banks.
but definitely not the bulk
Even CNN thinks otherwise: Frequent flyer programs: The most profitable part of the airline industry [1]. If you think about it a bit, this is basically money printing under little oversight. What business can be more profitable than that?
I chose that video because it does explain why and is often quoted to newcomers in the community, hence its view count. I myself have been in this game for a couple years and my family almost travel solely on international award tickets now, so it is not just something heard over the Internet.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlyerTalk
[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/08/business/frequent-flyer-p...
Having been in academia for a bit, I find it somewhat hard to believe multiple professional mathematicians in different fields give meaningful reply to a random email solicitation from an internet stranger within three weeks, simply because those people's inboxes are absolutely bombarded every minute.
In reality people would be thrilled to have such response even with a finished preprint on arXiv. Anyway if you really hit the jackpot hope it will be smooth working out the details and get it published!
That's exactly how Chinese android market works, every phone/pad is No.1 upon release and within a few week's PR campaign. After a couple months a new one is released with another No.1 bla-bla, while the old one goes on life-support.
Also have to mention their ads, built into the system, when every app opens, when you switch back, f*king everywhere. The funny thing is if you switch language to English or use it overseas, some of the ads will go away, ironic.