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that's cute but you can't blame people for holding opinions based on phenomenal observations before they learn the language and can perform experiments. the fact that so many can't is the sole reason you might be considered somewhat superior or competent. more people with scientific skills and a personal way to explain and adhere to the scientific method would mean that your competence would be no more than average, if at all. how would that make you feel?

more importantly though, is the fact that there are enough "critics" that consider Global Warming a cycle that "man" merely accelerated by a few decades. most of these "skeptics" are also perfectly capable of discerning between the amount of energy "wasted" in office buildings and lit up skyscrapers as well as anything at the end of luxury supply chains and markets and what the rest of the world "wastes" or expends. to them, the hoax is the "man-made" part ...

it should be "some-man-made climate change"

Just profits!

Sounds like open communism. No chance, buddy, it's either less or more viking, but not just viking. Pick a camp the profits are for or get surrounded by trashy turd nuggets even Ronald felt enough pity for to give them some poourpes

like an AI trying to interpret keyspam

'nuff to run most governments nowadays (Europe and US come to mind. 2026 and they have the Space Programs of DIY youtubers with money, whaaaat) so why wouldn't it help a dog helping his dog vibing game(s)?

it can but it will take one person just as long as a small team without "AI" and that one person will carry all the frustration, doubt, all the to do lists and imaginary pin boards and all that other stuff programmers carry around in their heads, at work and back home. have fun with all that.

side note: indie games are not complex software.

and most "overvalued" and "impossible" and "walking it back now" comments are true in as many cases as they are not true and I really do not understand these commenters. smart people should not fall into the same category as people who think that "nobody cares" because they never met devoted lawyers, investigative journalists and law enforcers passionate about justice AND law. it's all so weird, man ...

Any situation where sublimation of the ego can provide better outcomes.

Cooperation has to serve the ego, individual and/or collective, or there will be no cooperation.

Think of it this way: some almost Fascists back in the day knew how that thing would end and/or play out and decided against cooperation.

Enough actual Fascists survived anyway and the narrative and their actions still serve the same conviction. Some are rich and influential and fascist as fuck while others live in delusions.

Deleted from some location or purged from their entire system?

We do not keep any information around

... "around"

I changed my stance on "immoral" corporations:

Legal systems are the ones being "immoral" and "unethical" and "not just", not "righteous", not fair. They represent entire nations and populations while corpos represent interests of subsets of customers and "sponsors".

If corpos are forced to pivot because they are behaving ugly, they will ... otherwise they might lose money (although that is barely an issue anymore, given how you can offset almost any kind of loss via various stock market schemes).

But the entire chain upstream of law enforcement behaves ugly and weak, which is the fault of humanities finest and best earning "engineers".

Just take a sabbatical and fix some of that stuff ...

> I mean you and your global networks got money and you can even stay undetected, so what the hell is the issue? Personal preference? Damn it, I guess that settles that. <<

I am moderately certain that this only happens in laissez-faire cultures.

If you deviate from the sub-cultural norms of Wall Street, Jahmunkey, you fucked.

It's fraud or nothing, baby, be sure to respect the warning finger(s) of God when you get intrusive thoughts about exposing some scheme--aka whistleblowing.

the robot does to programming what the wall street did to thievery.

the police knew what's up. the law knew what's up. people knew what's up. you could be vigilant and prepared and reimbursed if the police managed to catch the thief. then came wall street and thieves (mostly) mourned their craft.

the law has no idea. the police has no idea. the people have no idea. it's all fraud. no honor, no skill, no chance to reimburse those who are defrauded.

jobs? demand creates jobs. doing things the right way creates jobs. not greedy, fuzzy business logic. that killed more jobs and SMEs than it created. killed more agency than it created opportunities. we know, it's just logic. but the law, the police, engineers looked the other way and worse, supported wall street. it's fun, I'm sure.

but don't think the world doesn't know what role programmers played. mourn all you want.

programmers had the chance to fight shady corporations and bad business practices and the darkest of dark patterns but they shat on teens and their attention and blamed the individual and worked for facebook and wall street and played key roles in expanding fraud, bad business practices and implemented more and more dark patterns and ways to hijack parents and teens minds, and to stress parents and kill agency and attention and care and vigilance.

they had a chance. now they mourn their craft.

I'm exaggerating. Relax. Y'all be fine. Others won't.

after reading the wiki article I'm quite certain he was saved and kept alive to continue his work. someone was out for his head but didn't have enough reach.

but that's just an assumption based on stories in the good old Soviet Union.

The notification system stopped serving me and started serving itself.

Itself meaning the company, meaning their sharehodlers, meaning whatever massive circle jerk eats all that data and then shits boatloads of bullshit straight into user brains, the developing teen ones being the main target.

An infinitely growing population and economy require distributing as much productive, constructive, inspiring and stimulating output as precisely as possible or huge amounts of capital get lost. As insanely sad as it is, the big guys don't care about that because they are not capitalists. After decades I'm not even sure anymore "capitalists" and "capitalism" even exist. I actually think it's just another Utopia.

I have come to understand that our economic, social and political leaders never got the right input themselves and neither did the techies, although engineers somehow get that stuff intuitively or at least "on first look".

Notification systems are an ugly analogy to what goes wrong when you do things out of the wrong, the "Facebook kind" of motivation.

Using these services began to feel like standing in front of a blaring loudspeaker, broadcasting fragments of conversations from all over the world directly in my face.

Exactly.

On the one hand, you can't reduce the signal-to-noise ratio without throwing it all at your users--or consumers in general--and letting them teach you what is worth it and what isn't, but on the other hand: YOU ARE A BILLION DOLLAR HEAVY COMPANY AND PART OF A MULTIMULTI-BILLION DOLLAR HEAVY NETWORK OF CORPORATIONS and you share all that data anyway and then use it for, against, by and off the people and for profit mostly.

Your employees studied and learned for at least a decade, which means that whatever you intended, had pretty much ZERO unintended side effects, which means you actually wanted to tire out users and consumers and one of your goals or your sharehodlers goals was an effective war of attrition against the good people of whatever nation.

The resulting brain fog, confusion, twitchyness, over-stimulation and/or reduced ability to distinguish signal from noise and/or the "who cares", "new times, man, nothing is important, ALL HAIL ALL THAT NOTHING THAT IS NOT IMPORTANT" and/or the exorbitant increase of stress hormone levels somehow served what exactly?

[I got a bit lost in the end ... I hope it serves it's purpose]

they paid you nothing for the things you taught/did for them :D

but it does sound fun. let's see if all these large coding models and agents are a similar scheme.

Germans won't tell you how much they earn, ever. It keeps salaries down in all industries.

These fucking Tarifvertraege have kept salaries from growing, too. The people would have pushed a long time ago but the truth is masked well enough.

Those who don't believe the shit, earn more. It is sad and the change and progress happens elsewhere. Enjoy one or two decades of German companies looking like they still matter. Nobody will account for the reasons later on. It's a shame.

And an average of 65k to the average person is gooood.

it might, but not if you isolate/repurpose that % (over time), which is the promise

because they should have not built them in the first place

At least some team at MS probably wanted to see what kind of data about and from their user base they could squeeze out with those features in those places.

No matter how much value this company has brought the people, the main goal at some point became extraction of data. They rolled those features out just when AI tools began to hit the same wall: no more data this way; I guess not even more noise.

I mean, if 1% out of 8 billion is "top" and that applies to Lines of Code, too, than ... more code contains more quality, ... by their logic, I guess ...

totally agree ... BUT:

When the first apes sorted stones, they didn't use any sorting algorithms and toddlers reason based on still limited/yet to develop and yet to be tutored/still untutored skills, knowledge and the systems that connect these two (CNS, ... bio-chemistry) ...

AIs are still just models and far away enough from intelligence. You could "script" (code algorithms to return) entire 24/7 news channels AND the news they broadcast and even the characters and the crews personal blogs and if you let some SSS graphics dudes work their magic only a few of those with an above 90% recognition rate (of GenAI content) would be able to spot "the slop", because it really wouldn't be slop anymore.

But it's not the AIs fault. So, if their parents put in the time and effort, the AIs could already fake being a grownup pretty damn well, as can over 90% of the human population, and that is, as we all know, enough to build all that is. But we don't need that kind of AI and those efforts and returns would serve no more than some peoples entertainment. There are more efficient and concise training methods, but we all know almost nobody will/ever really care(s) anyway ...

True AI won't see the light of day for a long time. While the concepts will serve all kinds of narratives pretty much forever, the distinction between "it's all algorithms!" and "how does the human brain do stuff?" isn't really worth it.

Zooming in on the parents and their reasoning, on the other hand, now that would be an interesting pursuit.

I'm afraid I don't know what that is.

I meant thinking patterns that go beyond our understanding. High functioning autism that is beyond jealousy/envy, and beyond the need to hold or be on a leash and beyond the enigma of emotions that come with the influence to dump and pump stock market prices of precious, precious metals.

Or, in other terms, the kind of intelligence that is built for abstract, distant, symbiotic humanity. From the POV of Earth as a system, we're quite the dumb nuisance. "Just get it, man". :D

Nobody. Did you talk to all the models? Can you actually have a non-coder, human conversation?

I don't know bridge and I did not google. Would you be so kind to be verbose? Your comment made me curious ... but I was busy

no one on either side of the political spectrum wants these systems to be fixed voluntarily with corporate altruism

Right on. But that's exactly the wiggle room where voters could pull some of those cards like "climate change mitigation (of consequences)", "climate change preparation", "upcoming waves of climate change refugees", "AI dividing the population", "Universal Basic Income", all of which are things companies like Apple won't do anything for (or against) while their goods are still mostly for proper earners and not for people who buy stuff at a discount (I'm exaggerating).

Since corporate altruism is definitely not on the menu, government institutions and NGOs will have to pick up way more than they are currently prepared for.

We are in a strange phase of calm before the storm, despite all those wars and conflicts--or in spite of them, I don't know. Shits' gonna hit the fan sooner or later and it's up to the voters to demand adequate preparation.

Big Corps caused significantly more damage than they had to cause for all those profits, whether as a side effect or not, and they did that long enough.

Job cuts, whether due to AI or not, will remain a thing while no "new" giants will rise for quite a while ... and corporations will sing the song "it's what the people want" only as long as voters will stay quiet.

Sure, bribes, corruption and blablabla, but it doesn't change how votes work and none of it changes how the devoted clerks in the administration do their jobs and write laws (if they have to have to) ...

If you spend a lot of time among some folks or talk a lot to LLMs, you are guaranteed to pick up manners, manners of speech, ways of thinking, behaviors (where applicable) ...

Me and my brother just can't stop mixing English and German when we talk to each other. But we don't or barely do it when we talk to others.

When I learned about code, logic, math, I started talking and thinking in different ways and from different and towards different perspectives.

The more I read, which I haven't done in a long long while, the more massive and vast the info I pack into a few sentences becomes.

The more I draw or play the guitar or work on game mechanics and story design or dialogues, the more annoying my speech and manners become but to my environment, that also means that I become "more" social and actually somewhat likeable and bearable.

You smell like Non-evidence based arrogance. I was always surrounded by people who smelled like that. But they are good little copypasta soldiers who follow trends and mutually assure that they don't go completely off the rails. But if one does, they leave him on his real or imaginary battlefield. Nobody wants to evolve anymore. It hurts some people just a little too much, I guess. They'd rather poison others and have their code deleted before getting to live a second life. I hope I could get you on edge a little. I'm just fucking around. But you will probably think something the likes of ... "there's always some truth to it when ..."

How did Trump get where he is? Who was and is his supply chain? Who made him? Who did he 'use' and 'need' to 'build himself'?

Everything can be vibe coded. Even high quality stuff. Net code is just as easy and hard as anything else. It's just time put into effort and vice versa. But time and effort are not things you can 'vibe acquire'. It takes *discipline*.

Only people with the patience to "vibe inquire" all the stuff they need to be "vibe taught" in a great many conversations with LLMs, which means vibe understanding things that need to be documented, which is the only thing that can't be vibed-- except if you are the type who turns napkin scribblings into screenplays and books and doesn't miss appointments and forgets logins written down on tiny pieces of paper and envelopes--can vibe code "anything".

LLMs replace any amount of industry-standard libraries with vanilla code and they will teach you why and what and how.

But you have to be patient and willing to understand. At some point you'll be looking through code and get some of it. And you'll see stuff that is unnecessary and you'll ask the LLM "isn't this way too much code for something so simple"?

Writing it yourself will still take a hundred lookups in shitty docs and you'll find 23 libraries that abstract all of it away along the way but you absolutely will be able to write the code yourself.

It's like learning french because you want to fuck. You can just use non-verbal communication and be bold and just vibe long and often enough and you will score and pick up french along the way but you can also learn french. Or do it all at the same time, or rather at different times within the same time, which is weeks, months, years.

How much life do you have? How much do you want? Why can't you just do things like everybody else and just do them how they do it? What was missing in your life? Whatever the world was lacking in the past, it's lacking it, still. You can vibe anything. It will take a year or two or three or more, anyway, but you will make really quick progress before it turns into the average kind of work that is only as fun as you make it. And it will only be frustrating if you stop inquiring. Just be radical and relentless and vibe.

But be sure to document everything meticulously. Build your own docs and collections of samples and snippets. You can let the LLM give you python code that does stuff to text and images, video and audio that you need for other stuff 'downstream', which is a place you will constantly find yourself even though you haven't been upstream, yet. The same goes for Blender objects. Once it gets complicated, calm down, hermano, stay caliente, and inquire.

LLMs will throw a shitload of shitty code at you. Make sure to let the LLM teach you and tell you when to split a conversation, even in tools like cursor and whatnot ...

LLMs will stick to some path they ended up on because they traversed their data within the constraints of the progression they went through during your conversations. These paths will make simpler solutions seemingly inaccessible to them and you will not know that any simpler solutions exist because you don't know anything and can't know what the LLM missed because you phrased something like a fucking moron.

Whenever it gets way out of proportion, (and does not work), don't get frustrated but ask if this can be done simpler or what are the simplest examples and components that wire something similar together. No need to go Faiynmen method or subatomic deep space repeating or anything like that. Just keep vibing. There's a reason you want to build your own MMO. 8 billion people and most things will never exist. Don't let your mind get lost in the many illusions of psycho-social prerogatives of interpretation (don't vibe learn what all of that is, you have better stuff to do).

right, people will just tell you the best places and things to invest in ...

during a game of chess: "hey why'd you make that move?"

if the government is owned by corporations via the stock markets than governments taking over organisations is privatization via a majority shareholdership and not nationalization.

of course they can, but that's a process, and a reactive one at that.

the government won't control uptime, ever.