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They really mean "I can't save enough money to meaningfully change my lifestyle or advance my status in an amount of time I feel is reasonable."

Basically they are lamenting that the American dream is dead, or a lie, and that they will always be working and never live the lifestyles portrayed by their favorite influencers.

There is some truth to the idea that many people will never own as much property or live as lavishly as their parents did however.

It literally is this way. America has ignored the plight of poor working class whites by grouping them with elite whites and treating them as one privileged group.

Then they focused on elevating nonwhites non Christians and homosexuals to higher social and economic standing not realizing or simply choosing to ignore that most white people really arent that much better off than non whites if you remove elites from the statistics.

So to poor white Americans this seems like a free pass or line jump for everybody else and we are now living through the political reaction to this injustice.

You can't tell 65% of your population to step aside without some repercussions.

Enjoy the madness.

Lmao why do people think quoting laws and statutes will do anything. It's like pointing to a school code of conduct while a bully has your head in a toilet.

It doesn't matter what the laws say. No one is going to enforce them against this president or his admins and if they tried no police or military force would enact their orders. Trump is above the law. It's gameover.

If that's what it takes to undo the moral decline of the last 30 years then so be it.

I'm sick of seeing insanity in schools, at work, and on the news everyday.

Our culture has been totally deconstructed and reversed where drag and pedophilia is celebrated, being diverse is more important than being skilled/having ability, being white is seen as tainted or somehow lesser than someone who has a diverse background. Beauty has been replaced with vulgarity and queerness.

The reversal has been a long time coming. We have had a silent majority that was too afraid to act because of the legal implications of going against powerful special interests.

There is 0 chance companies are refusing to hire skilled candidates that could make them money based solely on race. If this is happening it is because they bring more problems than profit when they enter the company.

And if companies are discriminating on race then you wouldn't want to work there anyway. The solution is not to force everyone to get along, that only breeds more resentment.

Far more likely is companies are weighing their liabilities by hiring a black or Latino or gay person or whatever and then facing a lawsuit because said person underperforms and plays the race card when consequences come around. The companies are afraid of upsetting these people so they are in essence elevated above their coworkers in terms of power/protections at work.

The DEI solution is to present a threat of greater liabilities immediately to companies by not hiring these people.

If I own a business and I want a peaceful cooperative work group I should be allowed to only hire based on what I see as the best fit.

If that means all people of a certain race or group are removed from my hiring pool then that's a stupid strategy because I am leaving competitive employees on the table for other businesses, so I would t do that, unless I had very good reason to believe this particular individual will bring excess friction to the work space.

It's not the governments job to step in and regulate how companies hire their employees.

If companies refuse to hire these people en masse their strategy should be to start their own company and present a real threat of competition to the companies that spurned them.

A strongman. A Caesar. Someone to champion the cultural values and identity we believe in. You don't have to like it, agree with it or understand it for it to happen.

Honestly I am trolling a little bit(maybe a lot) but this is literally how people think and no amount of discussion is going to change their minds. They want outcome A, you want outcome B, and there are very little (perhaps 0) shared values to build a cohesive foundation on which to compromise.

Every tradesman I know makes north of 80k, granted it's backbreaking work. I assume working in a factory such as semiconductors pays 6 figs, as an engineer or foreman of some kind.

If they are literally stamping parts together on an assembly line then I guess yeah it's not going to pay 100k.

There is nothing wrong with diversity. The problem is quotas to prove you are trying to foster a diverse environment, that pushes everyone in the majority class down a peg to meet some moral goal.

Then there is living in a constant state of "walking on eggshells" at work, at school etc. employers hiring diverse applicants to use as show ponies for photo ops, the majority class employees being terrified of ever giving honest criticism for fear of being labeled a racist or sexist or whatever-ism that people want to throw around.

Being told subliminally in k-12 and then overtly in higher education that "white people" are the problem or white men are the root of all ills in society.

Seeing all the high school and college valedictorians being mostly female but then reviewing their work and seeing nothing original or meaningful come from it. Wonder what's going on there?

I am for a fair playing field, it if the landscape is such that your appearance gives you an unfair advantage in life then I am against it. And no, being white in America is not an unfair advantage, I am white and I feel like I have been passed over for everything in favor of someone who is presumed to have a harder life than I have. For the record I grew up in poverty and use a wheelchair daily yet I went to college and got a cs degree and took out the loans and put in the years of work. I overcame all my obstacles WITHOUT someone giving me a leg up because I WORKED HARD and bit the bullet. And I paid back the loans!

Seeing all these woke crybaby actors and special interest group people cry because they didn't get a golden escalator to the top as if it was their due is why this conservative revolution is happening.

There are too many softhearted fools who honestly believe the world owes them something for whatever happened to their ancestors generations ago, whether it was slavery, or the church, or the pilgrims/colonizers whatever. They fail to realize you don't get anything by whining. You take it, or you work/trade for it, but you will never get and keep power by crying for attention.

They took it for a while, but now we are taking it back. Damn the fucking rules.

Is everyone on hacker news so entitled and privileged they cannot even imagine an American citizen wanting to work for a living?

I absolutely would work a factory job if it paid 100k+ and meant owning a home someday.

Instead I got 100k student loans and make 60k at a desk and I'll never have a life outside of work because I simply can't afford it.

I'll be 35 this year after 12 years of working and just starting to have a positive net worth.

American dream my ass.

I have spent years of my working life interacting almost solely through text and email, so this is believable to me.

If you live and work at home alone and don't order out food or socialize it is entirely possible to go days without speaking a word.

I used to spend entire summers alone as a child walking the forest in my backyard with my dog. I would speak to my parents at dinner but most of my world was quiet.

Speaking in person was very difficult for me as college student and something that I know I will never master because of the lack of verbal communication in my youth.

It's obviously not super common, but it is relatable to me that some people do live this way.